Blue or white hull? what does the panel think

I have a solution.
Buy a white one,
Go down to your local model shop and buy 40,000,,,,no 50,000 tins of airfix paint in a nice dark blue colour
Return to nice new white boat and paint it with the said paint.
Da Da
You now have a blue boat, or you will have if you ever finish painting it
On second thoughts cancel the above suggestion
Seriously
I prefer the blue hulls and would think that they would sell better.
I think TCM will answer this post

Moose

I've got a boat at last!!!
WHOOPEE!!!!!!!!!!

BUT WHAT SHOULD I CALL IT?
 
Re: targa 48 = blue hull

I had one of these. You may remember that i voted a t48 with blue hull, blue canvas bimini and green tinted windows to be amonst the best looking of boats. No question, a blue hull, imho. White hulls are easier to maintain BUT will condemn you to possibly being mistaken for a birchwood commander. ugh. Even asking the question means ..you know the answer?

Oh, and let's not stop there eh? It needs a wooden momo steering wheel, blue or white internal upholstery with cream or blue LEATHER sofa and NOT Widow twanky-effect crap semi-tartan saloon sofa, and NOT grey-mud coloured galley avonite either, the light coloured avonite much better. The berber carpet wears well and there was a light-wood and lightcarpet t48 in porto solente destined for spain VERY smart. Otherwise, std cherry is ok.

Note: unwritten option includes sprung matresses al round instead of standard poxy foam, highly desirable, altho hull number 18 inboard port cabin berth will still pong of sick.
 
blue ...no white er no blue erm white on the other hand blue no white nah def blue or maybe white errr dunno

Dom

I am boating again ;-)
 
blue hull (but what a/foul?)

No question, it has to be blue. Looks miles better, and all talk about harder to maintain etc is exaggerated imho. It's gotta be blue. Also, must be blue canvas too

Antifouling is then your next prob. Blue, white or black? We have white, becos looks better imho with blue hull, when the boat is planing. Downside is you need to lift out and jet wash more often (twice midseason) else grunge shows. TCM will tell you black looks ok, had it on his t48, but I'm not convinced. The blue sides come right down to the transom at the stern, so the blue kind of meets the black, thus reducing the white area to a triangle shape when viewed from side. I think it looks better in white
 
Re: black antifoul

ah but these are med boats. So, they are stern-to, and that's the main view. The black antifoul on a t48 just goes an inch or so above the water level. Plenty of white above the waterline to contrast the blue, and a good sharp waterline with no green/brown lurking under surface- the black disappears. Have a look at a black waterline boat, and you'll se what i mean. Unfortunately, daft antifoul painty types say ugh Black! cos they have to paint it on, but when in the water, quite different: at the waterline, the hull essentially disappears from view. Unlike greeby brownish "white" that theoretically looks fab, and indubitably does look better when the boat is showing off its bum at a boat show. But which, when in the water, it ain't

Now, jfm insists that there's some triangle of white at the front end(?) This of course might be tru if skintflinty white is run level along the waterline. But no prob on the swish t48 with antifoul lifting above the waterline towards the bow, the black remains black-looking above and below waterline, nice smooth line at fwd and no weird triangle which would happen if non-white antifoul showed above waterline, but anyway its greeby brown-white on the white ones, if you see what i mean. So: agreed they look better in white, for the first day, but after that, it's better black.

I predict that jfm will return to slime-ridden whiteyfoul boat and eventually have it done in black (like the leopard which dunt seem to be a problem eh?)
 
Re: black antifoul

Look, I totally agree that black a/f is fab on a white boat like the leopard. Or any white boat, the azimuts etc all look fab in black. No question about it. And immensely practical, cos no slime shows, totally agreed.

But, on a blue hull its a prob. Aesthetically. Esp navy blue. You can run the black up out of the waterline at the bow, following the chine, but that leaves very little white on show, so boat looks like blue sides and black bum, with tiny white in between.

Or you can have the black lined up perfickly with the waterline, so it looks fab when stationary, like the blue/white hull combo was intended to look. But when planing, the white becomes a triangle, big at front, tapering to a point at the stern. Doesn't look anywhere near as good as white a/f, imho.

But, yer right, by day 2, the white a/f looks all slimy and green, dang. So agreed, it looks good at boat show and on launch day, then goes manky, till next scrub. But I still cant bring myself to not use white, cos it looks soooooo good on about 4 days/year
 
t48 v p42

ah praps white is right for phantom? Cos propoprtionaly a load of it is blue. It really is a mostly-blue hull. Whereas t48 is less fully-blue hull, more a fat blue stripe sitting on plenty of white especially at bows. So, even with blackantifoul lots of white still shows and less of a weird triangle?

So perhaps we can agree that the t48 can have sexy black underwear? Whereas the Phantom can have er off-white y-fronts? erm...
 
Re: t48 v p42

They're Calvins Kleins. Though quite stained by day 10 ahem. But yes, you are right about the white middle bit. The P42 has a sleek midriff whereas the t48 is a bit podgy and has lots of white flesh on show between black knickers and blue bra. Ahem, metaphor about to conk out....

Is this a stay-up-late competition? If yes, you should give in now, as I am typing pages and pages on PC for a doc I need in the morning, and will be here hours, esp with dodgy keyboard
 
What they\'re trying to say is..

Given that both JFM and TCM are now asleep cos they were on the sauce late last night, we can now reveal the real answer.

As Fairline owners past and present , they obviously aspire to Sunsqueaker ownership.
So the right answer is Blue Hull, White antifouling with (thin) yellow bootstrap..



<font color=blue>I am WHAT I say I am</font color=blue>
 
Re: sunseeker special

ah yes a distant dream. I will chuck the tools over the side and put the lifejackets (if any) in the bottom of the saloon lazarrette, before firmly backing into the nearest pontoon for that regulation lightly crunched stern that is fortunatley only visible on close inspection seing as how the thing looks as though its already fallen off the crane anyway. After a maximum 20months ownership I wil of course put it up for sale, as is mandatory, so a pre-2000 squeaker is always 2 owners old.
 
Re: sunseeker special

oooh, I've lost the thread...thought we'd 'outed' you as a Sunseeker lover, and that was a joke too !!

<font color=blue>I am WHAT I say I am</font color=blue>
 
Re: sunseeker special

oooh, I've lost the thread...thought we'd 'outed' you as a Sunseeker lover, and that was a joke too !!



<font color=blue>I am WHAT I say I am</font color=blue>
 
Re: sunseeker special

oh oh damn, now i've caught the same clunkiness as learner and responding to my own posts like a nitwit, it's all that talking about sunseekers.

Q what do sunseeker owners call a bottle opener ? A: the toolset.

Q Where does a Sunseekers crew sit during a safety briefing? A: in an aeroplane.
 
Re: seriously

seriously c-j, imho the blue is better looking, whereas the white is easier to maintain.

As far as I know, there must be very few white-hull t48's. Initially, i believe that every single t48 had a coloured hull, even (ugh!) green. But aftyer seeing lots on the water, i have only ever seen blue hulls.

3 problems with blue hulls:
1, at the stern, the bluegelcoat actually faces upwardstowards the sun. So, in med, whilst everything else looks sleeky blue, that stern bit (which is all you see) is a bit greeby. If buying, i'd tellem that a purchase is conditional upon that bit getting sorted out nice and new please.
2. along the side, when clean, it is fab. But if a bit covered in salty gloop, not so fab.
3. fairline themselves (as reported by jfm, that's the sleepy guy over there with the crap computer) lead the move against blue hulls cos they were having difficulty making them reliably.

One possible option, if you like blue hul but don't want it looking old is to as the sensible princees chap told me: get a white one, and get a sticky-on navy blue flash. After a couple of years, rip it off and get another. Result: easy maintenence, smart boat.

White boat is more practical. But as you say, not as desirble, and so not as easy to sell, important i think. Like white mercs instead of met blue, they are 10% ish cheaper.
 
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