Bliar vs Churchill

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I came across this Churchill quote and couldn't help wondering if His Toniness has it the wrong way around?

Churchill said "...it is the people who control the Government, not the Government the people".
 
Blair is a prat! Churchill was at least a great statesman and a man for the times! Plese don't use their names together!
 
Colin, you really should know by now that his name is spelt "Bliar" and not "Blair"
 
yeah, he would breathe on Bliar and knock him out cold.

Has any one noticed Bliar's speeches are getting slower and slower. Someone has told him to add the odd dramatic pause, but the idiot has not grasped the method at all and pauses between every second word.

I find listening to him unbearable now, not just the content but the utterly ridiculous delivery. Surely someone should tell him....
 
At the risk of being provocative what do Blair and Churchill have to do with boats and cruising...
But if you must know Blair is the best prime minister since Lloyd George... nay Gladstone.
 
At least someone on this forum is prepared to stand up for Blair. What I perceive generally is unmitigated bias. I remember Churchill's administrations completely!
 
His statement at Gleneagles about the terrorist outrage was a prime example of his overdone pauses.
Unless of course whoever is working him these days was speaking the words in pairs into his earpiece and he was just repeating them?
 
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Unless of course whoever is working him these days was speaking the words in pairs into his earpiece and he was just repeating them?

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Could that have been George W Bush?
 
Churchill was an effective wartime leader but a complete disaster as a peacetime Prime Minister. One might argue the reverse of Tony Blair.

It's easy (and popular) to tear chunks out of whoever is in power at a given point in time, but I don't think we will really be able to judge how effective his Premiership has been until we have the benefit of hindsight. All I would observe at the moment is that we have a stable economy, low levels of unemployment, low levels of taxation (prepares to run for cover /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) and widespread general prosperity. We also have chavs, yobboes, terrorists, ridiculous extremes of political correctness (sometimes) and all the other stuff - but so does everyone else, though they manifest themselves in different ways.

I'm not a New Labourite, and have never voted for them - not least because my MP is a Lib Dem, and a good one, too, but when I look at the alternative to Labour on the Opposition front benches..............
 
I still reckon that, overall, we pay less - though as a petrol boat-owning p*sshead, I am probably contributing more than my fair share. I don't smoke though, so this must redress the balance a bit /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
 
Compare with France VAT 19.6%
Social security payments : Gross pay = 100 Employee's take home pay before tax - approx 78 Total cost to employer = about 150....

I woudn't complain so much if I were you.

John
 
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