Birmingham Boat and Matching Anoraks Show

Well Mr. Power yacht, you're entitled to your opinion, but you've just proven you haven't gotta a clue what you're talking about!

Almost every point listed is wrong, factually or untrue! But I can't be bothered to educate you. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif But there are people that read this forum that may actually believe what you say. So I would 'prefer' that you check up or belt up.

I'm pretty sure that if it were made by Cranchi, Azimut or anything Italian, you'd be raving about it.
 
I am kinda with PY on this one. The 40 looks top heavy, titchy bathing platform barely wide enough for two to pass safely, crap tender garage which is a waste of sapce, very narrow side access to the walk ways, very high free board, looks to fat for its length. The 38 looks very much better proportioned IMHO.
 
I love the teardrop shape windows, agree with Jimmy that the top rail accross the windscreen is a serious overkill however.

I like the big black bead that runs around the side windows now, but having also proudly owned a Targa 37 I would honestly say they dont look much different, and the lack of garage for a tender was for me anyway, an issue.

The Targa 40, is in my opinion a nice looking boat, I agree with the side walkways being a little tight, but trust Mr Rat when he says you can get a big tender in the garage however, trust me YOU can!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Internally, the 40 is worlds more modern than the 37, the 38 in comparison looks 'cheap', I dont think light wood works in boats at all...............'Pershing' maybe blows that theory out however!

They are all lovely, and somebodies pride and joy, sometimes people who post critisizing other peoples toys maybe should be a bit more carefull with what they say. Opinions are all well and good, but some get sensitive.

Take it from me, having bought an even bigger Targa, there are always compromises, its just about getting the best available for your 'Dorrar'!

Untill I come into HUUUUUGE amounts of Dorrar and can afford a big Pred, or Pershing..............I will stick to partially deflating my dinghy to get it into the garage of a Targa 48!

P.S. I love matching black gortex Musto Evolutions!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Jas.
 
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Well Mr. Power yacht, you're entitled to your opinion, but you've just proven you haven't gotta a clue what you're talking about!

Almost every point listed is wrong, factually or untrue! But I can't be bothered to educate you. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif But there are people that read this forum that may actually believe what you say. So I would 'prefer' that you check up or belt up.

I'm pretty sure that if it were made by Cranchi, Azimut or anything Italian, you'd be raving about it.

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I dont know what Cranchi, Azimut has to do with this...
I gave also a compliment to FL but I dont know what FL40T you have or had as I visited quite a few of them and all are like this
I am not saying the 40T is a no boat, but that the 38T is better minus the windshield that Nick pointed out
for me the 40T was trying to be too much like the old 43T and that is why it feels always cramped in the cockpit outside and the tender garage is so small, if u put a 2 metre in there you will suffer
ok for 4 persons the cockpit works ok but for more I am sure people will be bumping into each other...
 
As I said, you are entitled to your opinion but you are factually wrong!

Nuff said! This is about a caravan show not whether you know your about boats or not.

Sorry for thread drift guys. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Phew, thank god that's settled then. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm off to the show tomorrow to demand some answers, from the powers at MBM, regarding the "Buyers Guide" and the fact that it was MB&Y that's just tested the Botnia Targa 23, rather than MBM.
It would surely have been of more interest to the latter's audience rather than the former's. Unless, I suppose, it was being considered as the tender for one of the larger MB&Y accomodation blocks.
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and the fact that it was MB&Y that's just tested the Botnia Targa 23, rather than MBM.
It would surely have been of more interest to the latter's audience rather than the former's.

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Yes, the usual rule seems to be under 30' MBM only, 30-50 ft run it in both mags, over 50' MB&Y only, so a 23 in MB&Y does seem on the small side. Maybe they're going into competition with each other, and April's MBM will have a sea trial on the Mangusta 165 /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Didn't speak to anyone on the MBM stand today - never actually saw it /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Was too knackered to go and find it in the afternoon.

Actually thought the boating hall was quite good though it wasn't overly busy. Spoke to a number of exhibitors, most of whom said they had done better than expected and a significant no. said they wished the "London Show" could be moved to this venue.

Show was a dead loss for anyone into sailing unless it's in dinghies.

What amazed me was the huge no. of motorhome models there are in existance - incredible. How anyone can make up their mind what to buy, with that amount of choice, is beyond me. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
As I couldn't afford any of the boats at the show with exception possibly of the shetland 4 plus 2, my take as a probably never owner of the Targa 38 was why is it so small.

Previously Sealine have provided more room inside by nicking important stuff from outside but for anyone that has stepped on board the SC35 then you will know it feels 10' bigger than the Targa instead of 3 foot smaller and this time it looks like all the outside bits are intact.
Still not sure about the shape though.
 
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the SC35 then you will know it feels 10' bigger than the Targa instead of 3 foot smaller and this time it looks like all the outside bits are intact.
Still not sure about the shape though.

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It's the shape that gives you this feeling of space, checkout the american flat bottom boats and you'll find even more space, but these are really lake boats.

The Targa hull is designed to be an offshore cruiser where as the others are more suited to light winds, flats seas and inshore coastal use.
 
Seems a bit harsh on Sealines hull, especially as it has received such rave reviews on the handling and sea keeping front, don't think you can really compare it to a flat bottom lake boat.

I know Fairlines are built a bit heavier but the basic hull form is not that different when taken as actual m2, it is what they do with the space inside the hull where the difference really shows. If the Targa was an old boat then fair enough but, so I am told, it was all new 2 years ago.

Then again I suppose boating is very personal, for me I expect to have space for 6 even on my 34' fly, guess others need space for 2 but hull performance of 40', sure you must gain somewhere on working space too.
 
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