Biplane crash into Poole harbour entrance.

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Okay shoot me down for this, but why did they have to cancel the rest of the air show for this?
Possibly because the flight paths are supposed to ensure that forced landings don't nearly hit boats or hotels. It's not possible to eliminate all risks, but the Shoreham accident will still be fairly fresh in organiser's minds.
 

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Possibly because the flight paths are supposed to ensure that forced landings don't nearly hit boats or hotels. It's not possible to eliminate all risks, but the Shoreham accident will still be fairly fresh in organiser's minds.

I would have thought he would have been cleared from the display and be starting his/her transit back to somewhere - that's only just outside the RA(T) 0temporary restricted airspace for the show but should be well outside the actual display area given it went in incredibly close to the Sandbanks side of the Ferry slipway. The a/c was Boeing Stearman - a sort of US version of the Tiger Moth and as popular and as famous in the USA as the Tiger Moth is over here - needless to say, being American it is heavier and more powerful than a Tiger Moth. I would think there are at least a thousand still flying around the World and it's not known for any particularly unusual behaviour for the type.

I agree Shoreham will be fresh in everyone's mind - we still have a memorial to Flt Lt Jon Egging, the Red Arrow's pilot, who died almost ten years ago to the day, whilst returning to Bournemouth after his display. I'm really glad nobody's seriously injured.
 

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I believe there was a plane came down in the Solent years ago, directly onto a boat and killing its occupants.

I would think that, even in the Solent, in open water the chances of a crashing plane actually hitting a boat are slim (though obviously (additionally) tragic if it does). This crash, though, was not in open water, and as far as I can see from the reports was very close to the shore and to a concentration of boat, the ferry, etc. Even so, if the pilot had any control, it is better that they came down there than on the much more crowded land very close nearby.

It's not clear what, if any, control the pilot had to influence where it came down (a witness was reported as saying it came down sideways), and I imagine we shall have to wait quite a long time for the accident investigation report to find out.
 

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Okay shoot me down for this, but why did they have to cancel the rest of the air show for this?
Simples, a 'serious incident' took place with an aircraft. The Air Accident Investigation Board (AAIB) will be crawling all over this.

We were off the IoW when I heard this on Ch 16 and not surprised when I heard that Solent CG announced that the airshow had been stopped.

Thankfully, I am now a retired Safety Engineer and don't need to deal with the fall out of this type of stuff, not AAIB - who do a really thorough job.
 

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Divers were down this afternoon at low water with a barge mounted crane on hand, presumably recovering some wreckage.
 

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Culture has changed. In previous times, people have been killed in nasty accidents at motor races and air shows, and the prevailing attitude was, 'the show must go on, stiff upper lip, the dead driver/pilot would not have wanted everything to grind to halt' and so on. People definitely weren't more callous, say 50 years ago, but organisations today are definitely more averse to criticism (and to lawsuits..)
 

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Flying continued on Sunday once a little more was understood - any Display Director who didn't stop the display as soon as the incident happened would at the very least have his or her accreditation called into question - more than likely they'd lose it, and rightly in my opinion.

The procedures (CAP 403) don't specifically call for anything other than reporting the incident I believe - there''s no specific requirement to halt the display for any reason. Given that an experienced pilot, part of a VERY experienced team, crashed for unknown reasons as they exited the display and very nearly crashed into a large number of civilians the Display Director would need to have a very good reason to allow it to continue though. Remember that aircraft are literally queued up waiting to perform their displays - now another, unknown, factor has been introduced. As a result you the correct thing to do would be to stop the displays until at least a few facts are know.n Pilots flying displays not knowing if the crew are OK, never mind whether the aircraft has hit bystanders or anything, will not be in the best frame of mind. Or maybe it was caused by in idiot with a LASER or something - nobody had the vaguest idea hence the stop.
 

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What I would like to know is: does the pilot have communication with the girl on the wing when in the air? Did she know they were ditching in time to prepare? I would love to see an interview with the pilot. Fantastic result.
 

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Divers were down this afternoon at low water with a barge mounted crane on hand, presumably recovering some wreckage.
Account and more images at the link:
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PICTURED: Wingwalker plane recovered from the water at Sandbanks
 
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