Biodegradable biocide that emulsifies water!

Have you tested it to see if a certain strain of bug can become immune to it over time?

Have you tried it against SRBs?

After its killed the bugs what does it do with them? If they end up in a mass of crud going towards the filters then its no use really cos your solving one problem and creating another.

If it does break it down what are the filtration results?
 
I can see I'm not dealing with amateurs here! It's not an enzyme-based treatment and I've probably over-sold the biocidal-side (that's the latent marketeer in me) - it's main function is to remove water (up to 10%) through it's emulsive properties, which takes out the root cause of microbial growth that occurs at the water-hydrocarbon interface. It would therefore not lead to a build-up of sludge as you avoid the nasties in the first place. Could be used as shock treatment in severe water contamination cases. It won't separate out, unlike other emulsifiers due to its unique properties. According to the inventor, this is new technology coming straight from the laboratory (well they would say that wouldn't they) - I'll need to check with them to see how much can be revealed given that there are obviously some clued-up folk out there for which my amateurish ramblings have picqued curiosity and yet not revealed enough - they want to naturally protect their precious IP. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Key question is, if it were to be tried, tested and proven to be non-snake-oil, would anyone buy it?
 
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If they end up in a mass of crud going towards the filters then its no use really cos your solving one problem and creating another

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well said - but......................can anything really clear the crud
 
How do you remove water with emulsive properties ?

In an earlier post -I gave the "laymens" definition of emulsification .... the mixing of two incompatible liquids / mediums. This means that your 10% water is going to be spread through the diesel .... which I'm afraid could possibly hydro-lock any diesel causing serious damage. IF it doesn't - it will seriously affect the burn capability of the fuel.

Water in fact is not so prevalent in fuel.... most people here I reckon could confirm that they have rarely seen significant amount of water in their fuel tank ... if they have - then it is already separated - to be seen ! - and can be drained / siphoned off easy enough. Why would anyone want to try and burn it ?
Biocide is another matter and to be honest - again we are in an area that there are numerous successful additives enzyme and non-enzyme ..... Depsol knows all to well from past experience to curtail sales pitch on here !! His product works - so does mine ... so do many others ...

It will be a competitive world to enter ... and biggest factor will actually be not price or action of the additive - but availability ... How are you going to compete with a well known product ... actually at my last count about 3 products .... that are reasonably easy to get over the counter ?

I have access to Trade additives used in Oil Terminals, Ships, Refinery's etc. - quantities that far outstrip retail etc. But marketing and distribution is a real hurdle ....

The virtually unlimited life light bulb was produced - so I hear .... but couldn't reach the market. All the bulb manufacturers were already swamping the market with their limited life jobbies ... such that the better bulb didn't get a look in ...

Just a few thoughts to cogitate ........
 
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The virtually unlimited life light bulb was produced - so I hear .... but couldn't reach the market. All the bulb manufacturers were already swamping the market with their limited life jobbies ... such that the better bulb didn't get a look in ...

Just a few thoughts to cogitate ........

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Yes, google 'suppressed inventions'
 
I don't think the bug could build up resistence, unless the treatment leaves survivors that breed, mutate and select accordingly. I would think that would require a more mobile population that seems reasonable. I'm open to discussion on that, my ecology and population dynamics theory is at least 30 years old. By "bugs" are we speaking about bacteria or higher forms? Fungi? Protozoa? Reproducing by vegetative or sexual reproduction?

(By the way, I'm a Darwinist, no inheritance of acquired characteristics please)
 
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Many thanks, sbc - wise words indeed. We are looking at a few different routes to market - one of which may be to manufacture and go toe-to-toe with the incumbents. Another may be to climb in bed with them, as it were, and go down the licensing route. Provided the product does things better/ has a different value, they may be interested. The vol of water that it can deal with due to its unique technological properties may be that edge, for example as a shock treatment. Talking with a couple of potential parties currently. As you rightly point out - it is a competitive market with a few products that appear to have a strong distribution and following. Just speaking anecdotally with a number of people, it seems that the problem is not as severe as it may be, or being canny folk people have adapted their own ways of dealing with it.
 
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