mateyboy
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Hi Solitaire, is it strapped at front as well as in middle?
Biggest towable boat
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oGaryo
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wouldn't do it again unless absolutely necessary
I towed our boat (27ft Rinker 250) from Torquay to Southampton in the dark taking the M5, M4, M3 route.. going downhill was a bugger as were the grooves in the motorway on the inside lane and as for those who decide to nip in front of you and then slam on the anchors, well, beggars belief
Wouldn't want to do it again in rush as I think I had slightly too much weight on the hitch.. we could lift the front of the trailer up with two people but it was a struggle and resulted in the car being a little light at the front.. downhill = more weight = poohy pants = even less control.. especially when the car and trailer were dipping in and out of said grooves in the road.. not fun
strapped front x 2, sides x 2 and rear x 2
I towed our boat (27ft Rinker 250) from Torquay to Southampton in the dark taking the M5, M4, M3 route.. going downhill was a bugger as were the grooves in the motorway on the inside lane and as for those who decide to nip in front of you and then slam on the anchors, well, beggars belief
Wouldn't want to do it again in rush as I think I had slightly too much weight on the hitch.. we could lift the front of the trailer up with two people but it was a struggle and resulted in the car being a little light at the front.. downhill = more weight = poohy pants = even less control.. especially when the car and trailer were dipping in and out of said grooves in the road.. not fun
strapped front x 2, sides x 2 and rear x 2
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mateyboy
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Do you have standard towing electrics or double caravan type to plug in anything on the boat? beers to keep cold?
Braked trailer wheels I guess?
Braked trailer wheels I guess?
GrahamHR
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Iand as for those who decide to nip in front of you and then slam on the anchors, well, beggars belief
Yes, why do people do that? I only tow an empty trailer, I try to keep to the 60 limit on dual carriageways, I am always courteous on the road, I must admit I have speeded up to 70 + mph and overtaken those plonkers when they overtake and ram the brakes on and drive at 50 mph in front of me.
Graham
mateyboy
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I've been looking at some boats with 'launching trailer'. Are these not suitable for road use? What's the difference?, they look hefty enough, no side rollers/rails?
PaulGooch
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I towed our boat (27ft Rinker 250) from Torquay to Southampton in the dark taking the M5, M4, M3 route.. going downhill was a bugger as were the grooves in the motorway on the inside lane and as for those who decide to nip in front of you and then slam on the anchors, well, beggars belief
Wouldn't want to do it again in rush as I think I had slightly too much weight on the hitch.. we could lift the front of the trailer up with two people but it was a struggle and resulted in the car being a little light at the front.. downhill = more weight = poohy pants = even less control.. especially when the car and trailer were dipping in and out of said grooves in the road.. not fun
strapped front x 2, sides x 2 and rear x 2
Geez Gary, that looks a big lump behind the car
landlockedpirate
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This usually means that the trailer is not road legal, could be because brakes have been removed or it could be an American trailer. American trailers of this size are not road legal for a number of reasons, they may be too wide, have wrong towball or non complient brakes.
ReneJK
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but RenéJK friend and forummate on here, he has only 1 x 160HP (chipped to 180HP) in his Karnic and he has had lots of happy boating time aswell.
sidenote: ReneJK's Karnic is 2ft and a few 100kgs smaller than mine: model 2460 versus 2660
Yup.. Mine is all legal at 3300 Kg's fully loaded up with holiday gear
I use a Landy Defender TD5 and tow it around europe as well , typically to Croatia
here's what the set looks like
mateyboy
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Hi chaps a quick update here.
The decision is looking like its the trailer option based on; minimal mooring costs, maintenance at my place, boat stays clean out the water, 24-28ft cheap enough to run using either petrol or diesel(preferred option), forecourt fuel, we'll use b&b's mainly but stay aboard odd night as required, can use temporary moorings/swing as required for a couple of months or so before moving on.
Ironically, the rangerover has now gone back so It's another (cheaper this time) 4x4 to buy.
Karnic is high on the list, or anything above average performance 250hp+
Any more pics or ideas welcome, I love looking back at them.
The decision is looking like its the trailer option based on; minimal mooring costs, maintenance at my place, boat stays clean out the water, 24-28ft cheap enough to run using either petrol or diesel(preferred option), forecourt fuel, we'll use b&b's mainly but stay aboard odd night as required, can use temporary moorings/swing as required for a couple of months or so before moving on.
Ironically, the rangerover has now gone back so It's another (cheaper this time) 4x4 to buy.
Karnic is high on the list, or anything above average performance 250hp+
Any more pics or ideas welcome, I love looking back at them.
AndieMac
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Are you intending hard-core towing, or just to the ramp and back?
If you mean to get serious, think full size 4x4 (Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol) and after market heavy rear coils and load-levelling stabiliser bars from vehicle tow-hitch to trailer draw bar.
Don't be frightened to put air in the rear tyres, I run 50 psi rear and 40 in front.
A few small additions will make the road travelling experience that much better.
If you mean to get serious, think full size 4x4 (Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol) and after market heavy rear coils and load-levelling stabiliser bars from vehicle tow-hitch to trailer draw bar.
Don't be frightened to put air in the rear tyres, I run 50 psi rear and 40 in front.
A few small additions will make the road travelling experience that much better.
mateyboy
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I'm going to gear up for hardcore towing to open up more launch opportunities. Not only that I've seen em queing for the ramp and theres always one who wants to take all morning to launch. I've already got a big warne winch that I could use on the front. I used to run 50 psi allround in my
last 4x4 for normal use.
Stabilisers are something I haven't thought of so I'll be aware of that.
last 4x4 for normal use.
Stabilisers are something I haven't thought of so I'll be aware of that.
Jim@sea
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When I bought my new trailer I should have looked at the tyres in greater detail. I am old fashioned and the modern concept of getting something which will "Just" do the job dosent work with me. My trailer is designed to carry a 2000 kilo boat. They tyres have a load weight of 530kilo each so the maximum weight I can carry is 2120 kilo. (they are ordinary 4 ply car tyres) I am thinking of putting truck tyres on with a gross weight of 3500 kilos so I get more ply rating and stronger tyres. And perhaps carry a bigger boat ?.
lovezoo
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How does everyone find their brakes hold up if they launch from a slipway? On my previous boat, the brake shoes fell out on one side when towing to the slipway one day, jamming the hub. Half an hour of swearing later and we were on our way again. Fine for a 15 foot boat, not so fine if you're at the towing limit.
With my current boat, I never immerse the trailer in water.
With my current boat, I never immerse the trailer in water.
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mateyboy
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With my current boat, I never immerse the trailer in water.
How do you launch it? Crane it in?
mateyboy
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I'd be interested in your trailer also Bart, I'm looking at boats 2700-3000kgs
lovezoo
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Where it is now, its on a yard trailer, with bearings that make a terrible grinding noise, and obviously the wheels are going to fall off at some point.
Previously its been lifted in, then kept on a mooring. Obviously lifting is not an option for daily use.
I'll dig some pictures out of how it is done now, including how the yard moved the boat from the road trailer to the launch trailer.
landlockedpirate
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I think Gullwing trailers are the only UK aluminium trailer supplier, they are fully road legal and are about 20% lighter than a galvanised steel version.
But even with one of these a 3000kg dry weight boat is still going to be overweight once you add an anchor, some fuel, dinghy and wifey's shoes
You mention speed a few times in your post, how about something like this:
http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/UklCUzAxLVJJTTE1OX5SSUJTMDE=-Mariah_Mariah_Z250_Shabah.html
Rubbish accomodation but a bit faster than the average cuddy cruiser and legal to tow.
mateyboy
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To accomodate wifey's shoes I'd either have to get a 1200kg boat or forget trailering and get a Dutch barge!I think Gullwing trailers are the only UK aluminium trailer supplier, they are fully road legal and are about 20% lighter than a galvanised steel version.
But even with one of these a 3000kg dry weight boat is still going to be overweight once you add an anchor, some fuel, dinghy and wifey's shoes
BartW
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its a "Harbeck" trailer,
not sure if they have a dealer in UK, but that would be another good reason to contact them directly.
we had many issues with this trailer.
Before you eventually buy one, wait my full trailer report that I promissed some time ago, and now promise again (when back home),
But on the other hand, imho , its the only "made in Germany" Aluminium, option if you want to trailer a 2.8 ton boat.
I will provide a list of special mods to asc for....
I would offer you my combination (Kanic 2660 + Harbeck trailer in perfect condition) if I hadn't decided to keep her as a second boat for a few more years.....
o.a. trip to Scotland in september, ferry is booked
