Big search going in the Solent

[johndove]

Must have started about 8pm or before, now gone midnight. Number of Life boats plus the search and rescue helicopter.
Anybody knows anything? Hope all will be OK.

 

[chrishscorp]

Taken from the MCA Facebook page, doesnt sound very good.

HM Coastguard is appealing for information about the owner of a white and burgundy jetski which has just been found adrift in the eastern Solent with a killcord not attached and a mobile phone on board. The jetski is a Yamaha Waverunner and has a ‘201 Langstone Harbour’ sticker attached.
Gosport independent lifeboat, a Coastguard helicopter, Hillhead Coastguard Rescue Team and Calshot RNLI Lifeboat are searching the scene.
If you have information regarding the owner of the jetski please call HM Coastguard on 023 92552100.

 

[Greenheart]

Looks like lifeboat and heli just north of Osborne Bay before 1a.m.

 

[mjcoon]

If there is a mobile surely all they have to do is ring a number in the contact list and say "Who am I"!

(Unless they have to crack the password first...)

Mike.

 

[MarkCX]

Some phones allow calls to be made to emergency contacts without knowing the lock code.
Always worth setting it up if your phone allows it.

 

[Catalina36]

Carrying a PLB would be a sound move if alone on a high speed craft.

 

[Concerto]

Carrying a PLB would be a sound move if alone on a high speed craft.

Cor wots a PLB? Does it make the jetski go faster? These would be a typical comments from jetski users. Considering the usual one I see, they seem to almost have a death wish. See the video in this link. Danger of getting close to ships

Does anyone have have any further information on this recent incident?

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

Cor wots a PLB? Does it make the jetski go faster? These would be a typical comments from jetski users. Considering the usual one I see, they seem to almost have a death wish. See the video in this link. Danger of getting close to ships

Does anyone have have any further information on this recent incident?

I think I heard that the search was suspended 'pending other information' on 16 at around 4 this afternoon. Don't take it as gospel.

 

[prv]

See the video in this link. Danger of getting close to ships

Ok, so, he went very close to the ship (in order to touch it, for fun?), accidentally pulled his kill-cord as he reached out, then swirled through the ship’s wake briefly. Then got back on his ’ski, and most likely (we don’t see, as the video ends) restarted it and carried on with his day. It may not have been his smartest move, but nor does it seem like the near-death experience the police are trying to portray it as, and it certainly has nothing to do with “crossing the bow wave” as mentioned in their caption.

Bear in mind those stand-up jetskis are not all that buoyant, they will not support the rider’s weight when not moving, so being in the water next to it is absolutely business as usual, not “an accident” any more than a capsized high-performance dinghy is. You get one knee on the back as you’re pressing the start button, gun the engine before it has time to sink under you, and haul yourself up as it takes off. I have much more respect for the skill required to ride that kind than I do the big fat fully-buoyant two-seaters that any idiot can drive.

(Yes, many years ago I used to ride a borrowed jetski occasionally ?)

I‘m not condoning riding within touching distance of shipping, it was pretty stupid, I just think the police are stretching a bit in what they’re presenting the footage as.

Pete

 

[RichardS]

Considering the usual one I see, they seem to almost have a death wish. See the video in this link. Danger of getting close to ships

I must say that the stupidity of the human race never struggles to find its lower limit. Perhaps he thought that the purpose of the kill cord was to try and increase your chances of being killed?

Richard

 

[Catalina36]

I must say that the stupidity of the human race never struggles to find its lower limit. Perhaps he thought that the purpose of the kill cord was to try and increase your chances of being killed?

Richard

The killcord was "not attached". The assumption must be that it went over the side with the rider, which is why the craft was found not moving. It did its job but apparently he wasn't able to get back on it.

 

[RichardS]

The killcord was "not attached". The assumption must be that it went over the side with the rider, which is why the craft was found not moving. It did its job but apparently he wasn't able to get back on it.

I don't understand.

The kill cord was attached until the rider stupidly detached it himself so, naturally, it did go over the side with him. He appears to get back on and continue his ride.

Richard

 

[chanelyacht]

I don't understand.

The kill cord was attached until the rider stupidly detached it himself so, naturally, it did go over the side with him. He appears to get back on and continue his ride.

Richard

I think Catalina was referring to the current CG incident. The killcord (as I understand it) was not on the craft but the engine was in the kill/stop position - exactly what would happen if you fell off. The rider would only have been "stupid" if the kill cord was still attached to the craft, which would indicate it hadn't be worn.

With ref to comments about the "just ringing" the mobile phone contacts, what will have been done is an ownership trace from the IMEI number on the phone. In this incident, knowing who the person is isn't the problem - it's knowing where they are.

Unfortunately, given all the evidence so far, there is only one - very sad - conclusion to this job. Some awesome search patterns showing by both surface and air assets though. Trust me, making that "suspend search" decision is a really horrible one to do. You know as a coordinator you've done all you can, but it's still not a nice call to make.

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

I think Catalina was referring to the current CG incident. The killcord (as I understand it) was not on the craft but the engine was in the kill/stop position - exactly what would happen if you fell off. The rider would only have been "stupid" if the kill cord was still attached to the craft, which would indicate it hadn't be worn.

With ref to comments about the "just ringing" the mobile phone contacts, what will have been done is an ownership trace from the IMEI number on the phone. In this incident, knowing who the person is isn't the problem - it's knowing where they are.

Unfortunately, given all the evidence so far, there is only one - very sad - conclusion to this job. Some awesome search patterns showing by both surface and air assets though. Trust me, making that "suspend search" decision is a really horrible one to do. You know as a coordinator you've done all you can, but it's still not a nice call to make.

I mentioned that I'd heard 'the search was suspended 'pending other information'. Hopefully that means that something more positive was discovered.

 

[chanelyacht]

I mentioned that I'd heard 'the search was suspended 'pending other information'. Hopefully that means that something more positive was discovered.

No, it's the standard phrase. Once the maritime search has been completed to a probability of detection determined by the search manger, usually around 80%, it becomes a police incident, not Coastguard, and ongoing coordination is passed to them.

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

Ah, I just had a look at the Coastguard's web pages, and 'pending other information' seems to be a standard phrase meaning 'unless there's further information'.

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

No, it's the standard phrase. Once the maritime search has been completed to a probability of detection determined by the search manger, usually around 80%, it becomes a police incident, not Coastguard, and ongoing coordination is passed to them.

Beat me.

 

[Catalina36]

Now named, still not found.

 

[dom]

No, it's the standard phrase. Once the maritime search has been completed to a probability of detection determined by the search manger, usually around 80%, it becomes a police incident, not Coastguard, and ongoing coordination is passed to them.

So sad when that happens ?

 

[Stemar]

Body found now.

Body found in search for missing water scooter man