Best adhesive for headlining

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Hi,

Owing to the recent cabin headlining droop issue I'm going to strip it off, wirebrush back the previous adhesive and then spread an adhesive albeit I'm not entirely sure what I should be using and would therefore be grateful for any advice.

Thanks.
 
+1 for the advice from Hawke House.

If you can put the headlining on removable ply panels you can use a PVA adhesive, as indicated in the links, which is safer and much more pleasant to use that a solvent based adhesive.

If you do use a solvent based adhesive in the confined space of a boat cabin ensure it is well ventilated AND wear the appropriate mask which HH can supply. The fumes are deadly!

Cleaning off the old adhesive is the worst part of the job!. The disc which HH can supply ( or which any half decent tool shop will have) is better than a wire brush. My personal view is that what cannot be removed with a reasonable amount of effort can remain!
 
I did not get on with the disk recommended by HawkeHouse and used a cup brush on an angle grinder with care.

I have in some circumstances wiped firm old adhesive with the solvent supplied by Hawke House and applied new. Anyone any idea whether this ought to work or not?

You need a contact adhesive that can take high temperatures. I used the Hawke House products as I wanted the best chance of getting it right.

As others have said, correct mask and plenty of ventilation. I used 2 fans.
 
davidpbo said:
I did not get on with the disk recommended by HawkeHouse and used a cup brush on an angle grinder with care.

I have in some circumstances wiped firm old adhesive with the solvent supplied by Hawke House and applied new. Anyone any idea whether this ought to work or not?

You need a contact adhesive that can take high temperatures. I used the Hawke House products as I wanted the best chance of getting it right.

As others have said, correct mask and plenty of ventilation. I used 2 fans.
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Thanks David.

You're correct in that it needs to withstand the temperature.

Having recently purchased the Westerly it came with a fairly decent interior.

The cabin looked pristine and I would believe that the former owner had the headlining done professionally 10 years ago.

However owing to the recent high temperatures it's led to the famous droop scenario which is a pain and unfortunate to say the least.
 
VicS said:
+1 for the advice from Hawke House.

If you can put the headlining on removable ply panels you can use a PVA adhesive, as indicated in the links, which is safer and much more pleasant to use that a solvent based adhesive.

If you do use a solvent based adhesive in the confined space of a boat cabin ensure it is well ventilated AND wear the appropriate mask which HH can supply. The fumes are deadly!
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Not deadly in my case but bad enough to have severe reaction which lasted for months after I did our Centaur about 20 years ago. Hawke House branded adhesive is only available via them and designed to cope with migrating plasticisers in the material, which often causes the glue failure.
 
davidpbo said:
I doubt Hawke House make the stuff so probably buy it in from a wholsaler who brands it for them.
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I spoke to the manufacturers, it's a special mix developed with and for Hawke House specifically. They don't sell to anyone else. I also spoke to Evo, 3M etc to see if any water based products suitable for use on grp. The answer was no and both wouldn't guarantee their solvent based products long term life either. PVA O.K on wood but not grp. Hawke House also do some self adhesive (both sides) foam but wouldn't recommend for Med temperatures.
 
I recently replaced the sagging, old foam backed vinyl in my saloon with motorhome lining carpet.
The foam had become powder and after scraping any remnants attached to the ply, I wiped it over with a damp pan scrubber.

Then both ply and carpet were coated with heavy duty spray adhesive which was allowed to become almost dry before attaching the carpet.

I relined the forecabin a few years ago using the same material (Veltrim) and adhesive and its still solidly attached.
 

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Tam Lin said:
Oh dear, I can expect some of mine to fall off then! Looks the same, smells the same as Hawke House.
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The headlining of one of my new Westerly yachts fell off within a few months, and Westerly had to replace it under warranty. I think they used better glue the second time around.
 
A few years ago we had some work done for us at Ipswich Haven Marina. The guy took two attempts at the headlining and made a mess of it because the glue didn’t stick properly. Will definitely look into Hawke House.
 
The full glue sniffer, nasty, toxic,hard to buy stuff is the only choice...used as per directions- most especially the ‘well ventilated ‘part, it will stick.
The other enviro stuff won’t.

If I ever have to re line again I will use Velcro strips glued on with careful strategic regard...
 
Graham376 said:
Hawke House also do some self adhesive (both sides) foam but wouldn't recommend for Med temperatures.
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I did my last boat with this and would not recommended it full stop. Horrid stuff to work with.

I will be doing both sleeping cabins on the new boat and will be looking for a better insulating material that does not stick to everything it comes into contact with, including itself, then sacrifices its adhesive layer.
 
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