Berthing / communication

I used to have a motorola radio with half duplex commes and a VOX headset. I found the delay and the non full duplex also frustrating as the first word of speech was lost and if both spoke at the same time only onside would be heard.

This is why I went for a full duplex set so not delay and both can speak as in normal face to fact conversation.
 
Rogershaw said:
I used to have a motorola radio with half duplex commes and a VOX headset. I found the delay and the non full duplex also frustrating as the first word of speech was lost and if both spoke at the same time only onside would be heard.

This is why I went for a full duplex set so not delay and both can speak as in normal face to fact conversation.
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The missing first word is a common mistake with push-to-talk radios. People may get it if they were renamed "1:Push 2:Talk" radios.
Watching YouTube channels, you get the feeling that nobody understands / pays attention to the use of 'over' in comms process.
 
HissyFit said:
The missing first word is a common mistake with push-to-talk radios. People may get it if they were renamed "1:push 2:Talk" radios.
Watching YouTube channels, you get the feeling that nobody understands / pays attention to the use of 'over' in comms process.
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Dealing with comms errors induced by smiley faces. That was 1: Push 2: Talk
 
HissyFit said:
The missing first word is a common mistake with push-to-talk radios. People may get it if they were renamed "1:push 2:Talk" radios.
Watching YouTube channels, you get the feeling that nobody understands / pays attention to the use of 'over' in comms process.
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We had that problem when using the CB radios at #22 but got round it by starting each conversation with "TALK" to activate the system.
 
On one occasion when a berthing operation was not going well, my wife had the brass neck to query an order.

I took the opportunity of trying out a line from one of Conrad's books on her;

"The only reason with which you need concern yourself is that I wish it done"​
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It turned out not to be a good idea.

What had been a two-handed berthing operation suddenly became a single-handed one as she stalked angrily below and, in passing, gave me "that look" that says "you've not heard the last of this". :eek:
 
I would welcome communication. I find that even fairly experienced crew often focus on just what they feel responsible for. in an ideal situation all goes to plan and that works. In my own typical situation 'the plan' goes out the window and plans b,c,d etc are required. I'm stuck down in the centre cockpit with disaster unfolding and crew remain focussed on a plan that wont happen. Just attracting their attention would be useful and I had considered those dog collars that a button press alerts your pooch when you need their attention?
 
HissyFit said:
The missing first word is a common mistake with push-to-talk radios. People may get it if they were renamed "1:push 2:Talk" radios.
Watching YouTube channels, you get the feeling that nobody understands / pays attention to the use of 'over' in comms process.
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With a push to talk you can compensate with a delay but with VOX radios you need to remember to say an work to activate the VOX before speaking the real message.

These bluetooth headsets allow 2 to speak at the same time just like any normal landline or mobile phone
 
Rogershaw said:
With a push to talk you can compensate with a delay but with VOX radios you need to remember to say an work to activate the VOX before speaking the real message.

These bluetooth headsets allow 2 to speak at the same time just like any normal landline or mobile phone
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Full duplex, both hands free, one ear uncovered, rechargeable, and a lanyard to prevent loss (added by us) seems to be the best combination of ingredients. There are plenty of more expensive items for the boat that we have bought over the years but the Eartecs are, without doubt, the purchase we are most happy about, despite the ££s.
 
Poey50 said:
Full duplex, both hands free, one ear uncovered, rechargeable, and a lanyard to prevent loss (added by us) seems to be the best combination of ingredients. There are plenty of more expensive items for the boat that we have bought over the years but the Eartecs are, without doubt, the purchase we are most happy about, despite the ££s.
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Yes I agree, mine is very much like this eartec setup.

2-Person Set - Choose Headset Style - Headset | Communication | Eartec Co

I do have both one ear headset as well as twin ear full ear covering headset but I prefer the single ear setup
 
Poey50 said:
Full duplex, both hands free, one ear uncovered, rechargeable, and a lanyard to prevent loss (added by us) seems to be the best combination of ingredients. There are plenty of more expensive items for the boat that we have bought over the years but the Eartecs are, without doubt, the purchase we are most happy about, despite the ££s.
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Can I thank all with constructive advice , with young crew ( all under 12 ) its important to plan Berthing in advance and communication, , they are sailors of the future
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What has happened to the famed quarterdeck rasp? The effortless roar that would reach the fore topgallant mast.

Did Drake, Nelson et al and their crews need intercoms?

Not them! If you couldn't make yourself heard you were not fit to be afloat!

Aye, mateys!

 
Poignard said:
What has happened to the famed quarterdeck rasp? The effortless roar that would reach the fore topgallant mast.

Did Drake, Nelson et al and their crews need intercoms?

Not them! If you couldn't make yourself heard you were not fit to be afloat!

Aye, mateys!
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Captain doesn't need a big voice. That's what the boatswain's for.

Captain: Hoist the anchor.
Boatswain: Aye, aye Cap'n.
Hoist the anchor.
 
I haven't yet aspired to a 14m yacht but have still managed to achieve failure of communication with the foredeck even on a 10m one or much less. Whatever the appeal of radios and such, I still think that a pre-arranged set of hand or arm signals is the most reliable way of going about this.

A friend of ours upgraded to a Fisher37. His wife was happily engaged in sorting thing out forward on their first trip out and nearly jumped out of her skin when her husband delivered a message out loud over a speaker/horn on the wheelhouse that she had been unaware of. I'm not sure that this is a useful solution, not to say antisocial.
 
johnalison said:
I haven't yet aspired to a 14m yacht but have still managed to achieve failure of communication with the foredeck even on a 10m one or much less. Whatever the appeal of radios and such, I still think that a pre-arranged set of hand or arm signals is the most reliable way of going about this.

A friend of ours upgraded to a Fisher37. His wife was happily engaged in sorting thing out forward on their first trip out and nearly jumped out of her skin when her husband delivered a message out loud over a speaker/horn on the wheelhouse that she had been unaware of. I'm not sure that this is a useful solution, not to say antisocial.
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There is genuine sailors advising here and some people ‘ words fail me ‘
 
LittleSister said:
Well, as we're in the Practical Boat Owner Forum, how about swopping for a 6m boat, or installing speaking tubes (both home-made, of course!). The economy option is semaphore. ;)

I'll get my coat. . .
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Edit: I took that as gentle self mockery not a dig at the OP

Personally..... and with limited experience I'd be promoting well understood hand signals
 
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