One yacht design point that rarely gets a mention here is the ergonomics of the cockpit. Easy to overlook when comparing charts of vital hull statistics but the design of the cockpit has a direct effect on everyday usage both at sea and in harbour.
Having tried out the cockpits of comparable length designs at SBS 2007 I reckon Bavaria were clearly ahead of their AWB rivals in cockpit ergonomics.
Ok for johny and Aidy
This is the double bunk cabin, and then there was the usual double forepeak with seperate toilet and shower. The bunk cabin made great sea berths as you could shut the door and not be disturbed, and they were good for guests with kids who went to bed early.
You could also check the seas state...but it was under water on stbd
Ref Bav34
Reading your hobbies, I take it you have sold yer bike !!
I bought a Bav40 last October, its horses for courses, it has everything, for coastal cruising with four kids - perfect.
Come and have a look at mine. It is up for sale (at Lymington), a Bav 42 Ocean. Centre cockpit and very solidly built. Seldon, Volvo, Whitlock etc etc... (About 40% more expensive new than the aft cockpit model). A great sail and in tip top condition...
Apologies for the ad but hey, it was too good an opportumity to miss...
Is that an openable port window that would be underwater when on starboard tack?! Jeeze - better make sure you keep it closed at sea then!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
is a 42 (almost 44ft) built like a battleship in 2001.
She is one of the last model to be supplied with a Lloyds certificate & plaque
Well,she just does what we ask of her. She has the original sails, the motor is perfect and smoke free. She sailed down the Adriatic and across the Straits of Ottranto in the most evil weather on her maiden voyage and coped totally competently. The maximum wind we have been out in was 64kts. We sustained 58kts and over for half a day once. Totally unaffected.
Yes there are a few bits of fit-out that a H-R owner would reject but we have rectified those and anyone who knows her will attest that she is a fine yacht.
What do you think?
(yes. I know. "NEVER put a fender on a portlight!"
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That has answered a question of mine!
I have just helped a friend buy a Bav 36 in the South of France, I spotted it on holiday with him recently.
I was puzzled to see a Lloyds cert plate on a bulkhead.
The boat is in very good condition (1999) and it is the first Bav that I have inspected closely, so I'm not sure if its typical. But there was no evidence of the poor quality that one often hears about. In fact it looked a damn sight better built that the UK based Benny 311 it will replace.
The problem here is that the dog already has a bad name, to paraphrase. Doesnt really matter whether or not it is justified because it will still affect resale value. Bit like buying a Ford. And thats a mistake I've made often enough ( Ford Mondeo, Austin Princess, Rover 820) to know not to repeat on a boat.
Are they as bad as they are made out to be - I'm sure they arent. Is none of the adverse comment on Bavarias justified - I am sure that some of it is.