Bavaria lost keel again

rib said:
no way,and its a business venture not a change of boat for me,thou i have had some fun on the bigger boats
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I can't see why your coding of a Bavaria 47 for Cat 0 would be such a closely guarded secret.
The main issue is going to be stability when the boat is flooded. This will require you to have fitted watertight bulkhead/doors.
Another issue might be to do with separate bilge spaces.
However, stability booklet etc should all be ralatively easy to overcome.
So what am I missing?
 
noelex said:
A bolt on iron keel is the cheapest way of making a yacht and is justifiby popular. Nothing wrong with that, everyone likes to stretch their dollar as far as possible.
The argument that's it is the best because it's the most popular does not hold up for yachts any more than most other products. Give me a Ferarri rather than a Hyundai any day.
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Bad comparison. Having owned a Ferarri and Hyundai I can assure you Hyundais are far better built. The Hyundai never fails. The Ferarri has many build problems that will soon become apparant if you try and use one every day. They are fragile. Current models appear to be a bit better in that respect. Porsche is the way to go for quality every day supercar usage.
 
asteven221 said:
Bad comparison. Having owned a Ferarri and Hyundai I can assure you Hyundais are far better built. The Hyundai never fails. The Ferarri has many build problems that will soon become apparant if you try and use one every day. They are fragile. Current models appear to be a bit better in that respect. Porsche is the way to go for quality every day supercar usage.
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Funny You say that....

I have a Hyundai + Porsche!

Horses for courses of course!
 
Why would You???

Bavs are common here in the med. but why would you have a new one? There are plenty of good sailing yachts that can go out in any weather & be a perfectly stable boat.

If I was in the market again nothing over 1980 would even be in the frame give me an old, heavy displacement Yacht anytime.
Yes it will cost to upgrade the components - I don’t want to count the cost of Shady Too, but in a heavy weather situation I have complete confidence in her, rather than a light AWB.

Sorry if this upsets the Bav/Ben/Jen owners but that’s my considered opinion
 
poter said:
Bavs are common here in the med. but why would you have a new one? There are plenty of good sailing yachts that can go out in any weather & be a perfectly stable boat.

If I was in the market again nothing over 1980 would even be in the frame give me an old, heavy displacement Yacht anytime.
Yes it will cost to upgrade the components - I don’t want to count the cost of Shady Too, but in a heavy weather situation I have complete confidence in her, rather than a light AWB.

Sorry if this upsets the Bav/Ben/Jen owners but that’s my considered opinion
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Think you will find that when people come to spend their own hard earned cash some will prefer to buy a newer boat which meets their requirements (which, for many does not include regular heavy weather sailing) and needs little immediate ongoing expense. Rather than an old heavy boat that needs lots of work to get up to the standard they require. The low price of many of the latter type of boat seems to support their low value in the market.
 
poter said:
Bavs are common here in the med. but why would you have a new one? There are plenty of good sailing yachts that can go out in any weather & be a perfectly stable boat.

If I was in the market again nothing over 1980 would even be in the frame give me an old, heavy displacement Yacht anytime.
Yes it will cost to upgrade the components - I don’t want to count the cost of Shady Too, but in a heavy weather situation I have complete confidence in her, rather than a light AWB.

Sorry if this upsets the Bav/Ben/Jen owners but that’s my considered opinion
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Yes you are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, we were caught out in a Force 7, gusting 8 two days ago and I had every confidence in my Bavaria. She saw us through without any problems, yes there were sheets of water coming over the deck and yes we were very well reefed down but it did not fail us. Nor has it failed us since we left Plymouth 3 years ago. But you are entitled to your opinion. But sure you won't mind if I prefer to rely on my experience and that of other AWB owners.
 
poter said:
Bavs are common here in the med. but why would you have a new one? There are plenty of good sailing yachts that can go out in any weather & be a perfectly stable boat.

If I was in the market again nothing over 1980 would even be in the frame give me an old, heavy displacement Yacht anytime.
Yes it will cost to upgrade the components - I don’t want to count the cost of Shady Too, but in a heavy weather situation I have complete confidence in her, rather than a light AWB.

Sorry if this upsets the Bav/Ben/Jen owners but that’s my considered opinion
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Whilst the older Dufour 35 is a really great boat ( we have friends that did a transat in theirs and still live aboard it in the Cariibbean in between running a huge charter cat) it is no heavyweight at all but a relative lightweight, not that it matters one iota. Weight alone is meaningless and a poor way of resolving poor design or build quality. As Uffa Fox once said, weight is useful only in steam rollers.
 
I've just been reading these ridiculous Bavaria stuff. I don't know if this thread is still running but you sceptics out there please note we've arrived in New Zealand from the UK..... in a BAVARIA! And we've done it, just the two of us, going the 'wrong way round'.... and we've been through some real rough stuff. No problems with keels or spade rudders or keel bolts or any of that ****. Came across plenty of HR owners waiting and waiting in marinas for the 'right weather window'...
 
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