Bavaria 37 cruiser ..will not sail on main only ...why

[jonjo]

Re: Definitely operator error.

The new Bav 37 can be sailed well in these conditions, it took me a long time to overhaul one off Cowes this summer in 22 - 28 knots on the nose.

 

[samirc]

Re: Bav 37

none of u are getting the point i know about trimming getting the best angle and camber and all that .....it si simple the boat hardly moved in 22knt of wind that is not normal now is it ??? any one out there with a bavaria 37 ??

 

[boguing]

Re: Bav 37

Sorry mate. Ever heard of the soldier who thought the others were all out of step? Respondents have tactfully tried to give you clues.

If you put a sail up in 22Kts it will generate lift. You were turning that lift into heel and drag by pointing too high. I'm afraid that you need to go back to school and find out where you were going wrong.

 

[Krusty]

Re: Bav 37

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none of u are getting the point i know about trimming getting the best angle and camber and all that .....it si simple the boat hardly moved in 22knt of wind that is not normal now is it ??? any one out there with a bavaria 37 ??

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Actually, what you have described is quite normal! It is typical of a good boat whose skipper has brought her to the 'Hove-to under main alone' condition, in which the keel is completely stalled, creating turbulence instead of lift and going almost sideways!
No boat will go to windward, or much above a slow beam reach, unless the keel is working in smooth non-turbulent water.
The solution has been mentioned in previous posts: The sheets must be eased, the helm brought up to turn her well off the wind until she gathers way and smooth flow is re-established: then, and only then, ease the helm down and bring the sheet in progressively until fairly close-hauled (but not as tight or flat as with a genoa set).
The technique required for sailing under main alone is completely different from sailing with a sloop rig with a large headsail, and should be learned, if only because it is invaluable if you have to sail into a confined harbour with engine defunct!
I used to teach 'Slow Sailing' under main alone: it was always popular with trainee skippers. A bit of tension on the topping lift to put real twist in the sail gives the helm fine control of speed. Have some fun practicing it (in open waters first).
Good luck!

 

[samirc]

Re: Bav 37

Sorry guys no offence intended or arogance for that matter its more to do with my surprise and inability to describe what has happened to me for the first time ever in any of all the other boats i sailed.
what perhaps I failed to explain is that I did try all sorts of angles between beam reach 90 degrees to close reach say 60 and noway near clause hauled 45 to 60 . the occasion when I talked about trying to hove to was in a different position and location with both one reef in the main and 60 % Genoa I did what I was taught to do and read in Ton cunliffe book of how to hove to ( back the gib ,ease the main out and helm to winword) I did hove to many times sucessfully in many boats and i did bring the boat speed to 0 and was amazed how wonderfull it was. .....thank you all for your hints and help
may be i should go back to school afterall