Bavaria 27 Sport or not ?

They look WAY better proportioned than a Sealine 25 imo.

The fact is that the Americans (and Canadians) produce the best 25 to 30' sports cruisers.

I prefer European boats, but most manufacturers have deserted the smaller sizes.
 
The US brands do make good boats in that range - I myself had a Bayliner 285 which I rate as one of the best sub 30ft boats. But what is your criteria to label them the best? Do you look at design, price, quality, innovation? Just interetsed to know...
 
I have to disagree. I think the Giada 30 is an excellent boat for the price. I used to have one before I got myself a 2006 model Bavaria 32 Sport. I did over 4500 miles in my little Giada 30 over 5 years and the only time I had to call out an engineer was for the servicing. It took me to the Channel Islands, Holland, and South West England. It might look a bit dated inside compared to a lot of boats, but it is solidly built. Check this out
http://tinyurl.com/2lzoop

The Bavaria is excellent too btw.
 
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The fact is that the Americans (and Canadians) produce the best 25 to 30' sports cruisers.

I prefer European boats, but most manufacturers have deserted the smaller sizes.

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HMM I am not sure I would agree with you, check out the Windy range sub 30 ft, excellent and US boats not a patch on em. Then check out the Cranchi range if you think Windys are a bit pricey, and there are many other European brands that are better, Goldfish, Abbate or even Rios.

Also check out Westline boats, new sub 30ft range being promote by poster Jezbanks hereabouts these fora.

But I think you mean that there aren't any UK boats left in that range which I would agree with. I've owned both US and European boats and whilst both have been good in their own way I would never go back to buying a US boat even for sub 30 ft, they just aren't (generally) that well built (built to a budget) or well designed. ALL in my humble oppinion....
 
Agree it looks dated, but my point was it was a good solid boat and gave a comfortable ride and years of faithfull service. There is also plenty of room in the aft cabin and a very large heads.
Upholstry can be changed and so can the cupboard doors and table if necessary.
 
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Agree it looks dated, but my point was it was a good solid boat and gave a comfortable ride and years of faithfull service. There is also plenty of room in the aft cabin and a very large heads.
Upholstry can be changed and so can the cupboard doors and table if necessary.

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yeah I agree
with 1k you make a whole shiny interior look great and change all the colors
 
Wot abowt an appollloggee for yor spilling, while yor bein' nise to each uvva? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

At that budget, what about Bayliner, Doral and SeaRay. For my tuppence worth, I think Bavaria have lost the plot just for the time being.

Most manufacturers improve their boats each year (unless they're reducing costs) The older models from Bavaria offer more value than the later ones.

Well according to the Rat at least. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Im hanging in here guys, all of the sudgestions so far have been great with many great links & sudgestions.

So far we have learnt that owners of Bavarias seem to like them & wouldn't hesitate to recomend them.

Our main aim is to go new/nearly new (oldest poss 2005) within our £80K budget.

List of possibles so far:

Chaparral
Bavaria
Monterey
Doral

Looking at the list only one european so far, if we were looking at older then there are many we could add to the list.

There's the Sealine s28, somehow this is probably the most obvious choice, but they are looking quite plain & therefore dated amongst the new breed of accent gelcoat models.
The Fairline T29 is right on the style & money but were talking poss 10yrs old so rulled out (at this stage).

I'm currently drawn towards single diesel models, don't know why but unless someone talks me out of it, this is where our search will start, build quality needs to be good, resale good & engine/drive first class.

Guess It's going to be an interesting boatshow.
 
Single engine models make a lot of sense, but the UK market has been against them for years, mainly due to cheap fuel so a bit of extra bunce on the servicing didnt matter. The good news is the Single engine boats tend to be cheaper becuase of this.
 
Southwater have some NEW 270 cruisers with volvo D4-260`s in stock in your budget of £80k just so you know!! Or they have a couple of 2006 270 with Yanmar 315 6cylinders on their books speak to Dave if you call
 
Thanks gingie,

We will be looking closer at the Southampton show, you know how it goes, if the boss likes it I'm half way there.
Great layout on the 270, only seen brochure shots so will be interesting to see how it compares with it's competitors.

Do like the Yanmar but B3 leg might be it's weakpoint, Volvo D4 maybe a better package?
 
In response to your question Jez,

I think the Doral Monticello and Chaparral 270 are a good balance of value, quality and style. I don't know what they cost in the UK, but GBP80K should be enough for a new one.
 
If this thread is still active, a friend in my marina has a cracking bargain going on a year old Monterey 270 with a 310 Yanmar... PM if interested, considerably under 80k /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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