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Hi All, I mostly sail single handed my genoa sheet winches are two speed standard (not self tailing) Iam thinking
of fitting Barton Winchers to convert to self tailing, firstly have you fitted them and if so how affective are they,
my concerns are when tacking single handed my 28ft boat I flick the sheets quickly off the drum without any problem,
will the Winchers slow down this or impede this in any way i have never used self tailers so your comments would be
welcome, also it might save me about £58-00 if your comments are negative.
 
Excellent product ,our Barlow winches now self tail .(needed to experiment with the right size sheet though).Work well and in 10 yrs haven't let us down.need to make sure that they are covered as they seem to degrade with UV.
Cindy
 
Love mine. They're awesome. Mine hold without cleating off up to about force 4. After that they need tailing whilst winching but only a slight grip.

To fit go by the sizing instructions in their site. You'll think you've bough too small but get them in hot water and with some washing up liquid they'll go on ok. Mine have been on two years in winter and summer and not showing signs of degradation yet.
 
Had them for the last 10 years and they work fine as long as you have the correct size sheets. I've never had a problem with removing sheets from the winch but I guess you may need to modify the technique slightly if you normally just rip it off vertically.
 
silverdawn said:
Hi All, I mostly sail single handed my genoa sheet winches are two speed standard (not self tailing) Iam thinking
of fitting Barton Winchers to convert to self tailing, firstly have you fitted them and if so how affective are they,
my concerns are when tacking single handed my 28ft boat I flick the sheets quickly off the drum without any problem,
will the Winchers slow down this or impede this in any way i have never used self tailers so your comments would be
welcome, also it might save me about £58-00 if your comments are negative.
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I have used various makes of self tailing winches, generally all the purpose made (not modified) are excellent. However a point worth noting when replacing winches is that not all winches can be serviced without undoing the through deck bolts. My Beneteau is fitted with Harken winches, and the model I have has to be unbolted from the deck in order to access the inner gears. They are not all like this, it is worth asking before buying. Servicing is really easy, if you have access. You will be pleased you changed, good luck, George.
 
GeorgeLlewellin said:
I have used various makes of self tailing winches, generally all the purpose made (not modified) are excellent. However a point worth noting when replacing winches is that not all winches can be serviced without undoing the through deck bolts. My Beneteau is fitted with Harken winches, and the model I have has to be unbolted from the deck in order to access the inner gears. They are not all like this, it is worth asking before buying. Servicing is really easy, if you have access. You will be pleased you changed, good luck, George.
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WincheRs not winchs.:encouragement:
 
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I had some for a couple of seasons before fitting self tailers.

They work pretty well, the only difficulty I found was when just "easing" the sheet, you need to take a couple of turns off before doing so, I suppose no worse than having to uncleat the free end, but it felt a bit more cumbersome. When tacking it did take a fraction longer than just uncleating and lifting straight up.
 
GeorgeLlewellin said:
I have used various makes of self tailing winches, generally all the purpose made (not modified) are excellent. However a point worth noting when replacing winches is that not all winches can be serviced without undoing the through deck bolts. My Beneteau is fitted with Harken winches, and the model I have has to be unbolted from the deck in order to access the inner gears. They are not all like this, it is worth asking before buying. Servicing is really easy, if you have access. You will be pleased you changed, good luck, George.
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Winchers not winch`s
 
I have recently replaced my sheet winches, and debated long and hard about buying STs. At the end of the day, I bought non-ST 2 speed Lewmars. Winding on and releasing the sheets is much easier without tailers - singlehanding, I can release one and quickly pull in the other, holding the tail and 'pumping' with the two speed winch. However, for me, one major advantage is safety: with the spray hood up, I couldn't untail the sheet, in good RYA fashion, by applying constant tension to the sheet (heel of hand to winch) as I unwound it from the self tailer (I'd worried about my fingers on a school boat with the hood up).

I'd though at the time, I could put on winchers, but now I wouldn't consider it.
 
Barton Winchers. Thanks for all your replies I have purchased a secondhand a pair of Lewmar 42 which are the most simple
to service just remove the circlip on top and the cover comes off giving access to all parts, I cleaned and serviced the pair
in one hour, the winches I had are Barient which need a special tool to remove the body from the drum ( see the following post) again asking for advise.
From your replies I will be fitting Winchers.
Thank you.
 
If you are doing it on the water pass a very light , bit strong tether through it , just in case during the fiight to get it on the wincher jumps over the side :)

How do i know ?
 
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