auto lifejackets on aeroplanes?

Don't know about rules, I just throw mine in the hold.
I would suspect if you ask it will be a no sir or remove the air sir.

so I don't ask.
 
Monarch say no compressed gas


prohibited items
dangerous goods

For the safety of all our passengers, Monarch restricts certain articles from passengers' hand baggage and hold baggage, as well as strictly prohibiting certain items for carriage onboard the aircraft.

The following items are strictly prohibited from either hand or hold baggage

flammable materials e.g. lighter/heater fuels, petrol, paint, thinners, non-safety matches and fire lighters
oxidising materials such as lighter or heater fuels
oxidising materials such as bleaches and peroxides
poisons such as arsenic, weed killers and insecticides
corrosives, alkalis and wet cell batteries i.e. filled car batteries
etiologic agents (bacteria, viruses etc.)
radio-active materials
firearms
explosives, fireworks, flares, toy gun caps, party poppers
compressed gases (flammable, non-flammable and poisonous) e.g. butane, and including culinary blowtorches, butane powered travel irons, camping or compressed gas cylinders, tear gas, mace or CS gas devices, butane powered gas curlers (prohibited unless a safety cover is supplied and is firmly in place) - separate re-fills are not allowed
oxygen and chemical oxygen generators.
magnetised materials
offensive and irritating materials
apparatus containing mercury may only be carried as cargo
cooking oil

I'm flying with Monarch to a Greek flotilla holiday. I had hoped to take our autos but probably won't in case they have to be forfeited.

Ash
 
Do a search and this topic was done to death a week or so ago. Essentially it is acceptable to take the 330g cyliders as hold luggage, but the norm is a limit of 2 per bag. However, you should check witht he airline because the final decision is theirs. I took 4 cylindres on Easyjet - phoned them first and confirmed OK. Others have placed in hold baggage without declaring and have had no problem.
 
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Easyjet - phoned them first and confirmed OK.

[/ QUOTE ] That may be fine but will not be of help when standing line at the Airport.
That person is somewhereelse in the country or not at work etc.

Better to get it in writing. Just my opinion. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
You are probably right, and some airlines such as BA have a printed explanation on their website. These days it is very difficult to get anything in writing from the "virtual" airlines.

If it is hold baggage you do not have to declare it, although I guess it could become an issue at baggage screening.
 
Airlines can be bl**dy weird about these things, many moons ago I had severe difficulties sending a device that actually had full airworthiness certification and was specifically designed to be fitted on aircraft to the extent our first production units were fitted on the queens fligh aircraft, as air freight.

I must admit that the last time I flew with lifejackets I didn't tell the airline and had no hassle
 
I have flown several times with a suitcase full of all sorts of boat crud. Last month a litre of VCTar2, well wrapped up in plastic bags and clothes along with about 10kg of blocks tackles, clutches etc. I was fully expecting to be acalled back to security to open the bag. Its never happened? I sometimes wonder just how much luggage is really screened!
 
chalktn said:
Thanks to all.

I guess I will take the act dumb approach and see!
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An update - above plan worked for me.

I removed the cylinders from 2 LJs, placed them in a see through envelope and had the LJs and cylinders at the top of one of the luggage bags going into the hold.

Decided that the worst that would happen is that they would take away the cylinders.

Travelled out and back with Easyjet and Monarch with no problems.

Ash

PS - my hand luggage was stuffed with camera, rechargable batteries and charger, gps and 12V cable, phone chargers, etc. Screened 4 times but never had to open it.
 
The actual rules are that you can take a life jacket plus two spare cylinders. Unfortunately, not all the check in staff no this, they just see compressed gas cylinder and say no.. because of the short guidance cards they have, but life jackets and their cartridges are specifically exempted from this.
Airlines seem to vary as to how they want them carried.. US Air and Iberia wanted it in hand luggage with cylinder attached, Virgin in hand luggage with cylinder detached, United wanted them as checked baggage cylinders attached.
I've never had a problem with EasyJet.. their staff have always seemed the most knowledgeable or the most prepared to check the actual detailed rules.
Iberia have also been fine.
I would clarify the airlines stance by fone and get there authority as to how they want them packed... If they don't play ball, put them in the checked baggage and act dumb. Will try and rootle out the actual ruling during the week and PM the reference to you.
Good Luck
 
lesweeks said:
I'd be inclined to pack it in the hold baggage and act dumb.
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I posted exactly that reply a few years ago and got a load of intemperate abuse from a pilot. Mind you, he had managed to turn a single lifejacket in a suitcase into a crate of the things that would all manage to go off at the same time and break the aircraft's hydraulics.

Every check-in clerk has his or her own ideas on what is allowed in baggage which may be totally unrelated to their own airline's policy or the IATA guidelines. The one thing they all have in common is an unwavering conviction that they are right and a mere passenger can't say anything to get them to question their faith.
 
LizzieB has got it right. The CAA clarified this a year or two back, - after all the aircraft is already stuffed with armed lifejackets - but I know from others who have got into disputes at check-in that the knowledge never seems to filter down to the coal-face.

For what it's worth I have taken my sailing kit on a host of different air-lines in the UK and abroad. My life-jacket goes in my bag as hold luggage and I never declare its presence, to avoid confusing the check-in staff. I always follow a tip given by another delivery guy - when packing the bag I flatten a sheet of thick kitchen foil either side of my life-jacket, where the cylinder is. He reckoned it hides their outline from the X-ray machine. It's probably nonsense, but I have never had my luggage challenged despite making numerous flights like this.
 
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