Attempt by our Committee to change the Club rules without notifying the members

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RYA guidlines

Extract from RYA document ‘http://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollectio...aflets/Clubs/Members/EXPULSION OF MEMBERS.pdf
The Respondent should have a full and fair hearing:
In practice this means that he should:
  • be told well in advance the precise nature and details of the complaint against him;
  • be given well in advance any written statements made by witnesses;
  • be entitled to cross examine any witnesses, produce his own witnesses, give evidence himself, and make a closing statement;
  • not be subject to unreasonable time restraints in any of the above. For example, he should be given all the relevant documents at least 3 weeks before the hearing, and the committee should be prepared at the very least for a 2 - hour hearing; in many cases it will take longer.


Club rules


3.3 - The Club Committee may refuse membership, or remove it, only for good cause such as conduct or character likely to bring the Club or sport into disrepute. Appeal against refusal or removal may be made to members.

4.9 - Every Member on joining the Club implicitly undertakes to comply with these rules and any refusal or neglect to do so or any conduct which in the opinion of the Committee is either unworthy of a Member or otherwise injurious to the interests of the Club shall render a Member liable to expulsion by the Committee. Provided that before expelling a Member the Committee shall call upon the Member for an explanation of his/her conduct and shall give an opportunity of defending himself/herself or to resign membership.

4.10 - The vote on a resolution for expulsion shall be by ballot and the resolution shall only be carried out if not less than three-quarters of the members of the Committee present, vote in favour of the resolution.

6.3 - At every Annual General Meeting, all the members of the Committee shall retire but are eligible for immediate re-election, except that no person shall be eligible for election as Commodore at more than three successive Annual General Meetings. The retiring Committee is deemed to hold office until the end of the Annual General Meeting.

9.1 - An Annual General Meeting shall be held at some place to be named on some day in the month of MARCH, APRIL or MAY, to be fixed by the Commodore. The Honorary Secretary shall, at least 28 clear days before the date of such meeting, post or deliver to each member notice of it and of the business to be brought forward at it.

9.2 No business (except the passing of the accounts and the election of the Officers, Committee and Honorary Auditor and any business that the Committee may order to be inserted in the notice convening the meeting) shall be discussed at such Annual General Meeting unless notice thereof is given to the Honorary Secretary at least 28 days before the Annual General Meeting.

10.0 NEW RULES, AMMENDMENTS and ALTERATIONS

10.1 Notice of any alteration or addition to the Rules intended to be proposed by a member of the club shall be given to the Honorary Secretary in writing at least 28 days before an Annual General Meeting or an Extraordinary General meeting at which the same is to be brought forward, and full particulars of any such proposed alterations or additions shall be set out in the notice convening the meeting.

10.2 All such proposed alterations or additions and any amendments to them which may be proposed and seconded shall be put to the vote of the meeting and provided that on a show of hands or, if demanded, on a poll, a majority of two-thirds of the votes of those members present and entitled to vote shall be cast in favour of any proposed alterations or additions or amendments then the same shall be deemed to be carried.

15.0 PRIORITY OF KEY RULES FOR CASC STATUS

15.1 Where there is any conflict between any of the Key Rules (Rules 2, 3, 12 & 14) for CASC Status and any other rule or rules the Key Rules will take priority. Interpretation of all Rules must be consistent with the statutory requirements for CASCs (which means Community Amateur Sports Clubs as provided for by the Finance Act 2002).
 
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well thats the club identified again!


Nobody here can come to any logical conclusion about all this as we have only heard one side of the story.

On the face of it it sounds like a very badly managed attempt to get rid of someone they see as a long term trouble maker !
 
Nobody here can come to any logical conclusion about all this as we have only heard one side of the story.

True, although in the emails I have seen from the other side I have to say that I feel I have seen enough of their position to side firmly with NickC

On the face of it it sounds like a very badly managed attempt to get rid of someone they see as a long term trouble maker !

Quite a coincidence that he also had a run in with a senior committee member over that outboard. The impression I get is that someone is trying to his exploit his club officer status to settle a personal grudge. Putting an unusable outboard in a shared boat and threatening legal action if the co-owners of the boat touch it is a little ... peculiar.
 
Unlike everyone else here i am going to side with the committee
If i was a member of the club I think i would like to see the back of him -

We haven't heard anything from the members of the club, just (indirectly) from the committee, and since one of them was the instigator of the Outsize Outboard Outrage they may not be wholly impartial.
 
and since one of them was the instigator of the Outsize Outboard Outrage they may not be wholly impartial.
That was actually me that started that other thread. I agree it would be good to hear from other impartial ordinary members but most of the long-term members are not really internet people so no one obvious that I can ask to come on here and post their opinions. Most of the internet people I know in the club are all part of the Committee consortium.
 
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That was actually me that started that other thread. I agree it would be good to hear from other impartial ordinary members but most of the long-term members are not really internet people so no one obvious that I can ask to come on here and post their opinions.
Give Gus a call he is very helpful

T: tel:023 8060 4220 | E: gus.lewis@rya.org.uk
 
I am not personally a member of the RYA.

But the ******** sailing club is affiliated and I believe that means all its members have full benefits of membership.

I dont believe any of this is going to get you anywhere except perhaps make matters worse

2 options:

Bury the hatchet or walk
 
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What a terribly sad read. Why would any of us want to put ourselves through all this nonsense. Although it is difficult to be objective when the mob mentality applies and the bullying follows but you have to distance yourself from it and decide what you want from your sailing. For most of us its a boat that we enjoy and company we enjoy. Fortunately having a boat tends to bring the other together naturally.
Move on, these people and those who follow them and comply with their egotistical wishes are worth nothing more than a brief afterthought as you sail to new horizons.
 
the main problem as I see it is the OP had a 1/4 share in a boat and that was his sailing buget so he cant just buy another boat whether he changes clubs or not
plus one or two of the other share holders have robbed him of his chance to sail his own boat by making it unfit for use
I would have thought anyone who takes on a position on of trust in a club would make sure they were seen to try to help as much as possible and be a person of good judgement and common sense and know when a outboard engine stops a boats ability to steer and realize it needed to be removed

rant over

all internet and club related chat online issues and kicking him out is just a smoke screen to the real issue
 
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