Attatching Jibs to a roller furler with slides.

[graham]

I have a roller furler genoa on my 25 ft Coronado. I also have a nice high cut jib and a storm jib that have piston hanks. Is it a good idea to attatch the sails with slides or will this stress the track in the roller furler spar?

I have considered fitting a removeable inner forestay to take the extra sails (allready have a spare halyard)but it seems a lot of expense and hassle for very occasional use.

 

[wklein]

I have a roller furler genoa on my 25 ft Coronado. I also have a nice high cut jib and a storm jib that have piston hanks. Is it a good idea to attatch the sails with slides or will this stress the track in the roller furler spar?

I have considered fitting a removeable inner forestay to take the extra sails (allready have a spare halyard)but it seems a lot of expense and hassle for very occasional use.

The ideal would be a removable inner forestay wire and mast fitting not super expensive, its the tensioner that costs the money.
I don't think that sliders would e a great idea as luff groove on most is about 5/6mm so would be rather a lot of pressure on nylon sliders when it was reefed there would be considerable side loads and if any metal was used the would chaffe sail. Would it not be better to get luff tape sewn on if your going down this road?

 

[Lakesailor]

I was going to suggest a luff tape. I seem to remember it cost me about £80 wen I had one done.

 

[Tintin]

I was going to suggest a luff tape. I seem to remember it cost me about £80 wen I had one done.

+1

 

[stav]

Go for the seperate inner stay as getting the sail off/on the roller to change to a jib will be the uard part. Moving a stay out and just hanking on a differnt sail is a lot less hassle. When I have had this arrangement I have always used the 100% jib a lot more and makes sailing in moderate winds so much nicer. As has been said the highfield lever is the expensive bit but on my old Hillyard I just tesioned with a 4:1 or 5:1 block system with dynema. A fitting for the top of the mast is quite cheap. I also managed to get a fixing to the stemhead fitting just behind the roller reefer drum, but make sure the hanks clear the drum.

Have fun.

 

[graham]

Go for the seperate inner stay as getting the sail off/on the roller to change to a jib will be the uard part. Moving a stay out and just hanking on a differnt sail is a lot less hassle. When I have had this arrangement I have always used the 100% jib a lot more and makes sailing in moderate winds so much nicer. As has been said the highfield lever is the expensive bit but on my old Hillyard I just tesioned with a 4:1 or 5:1 block system with dynema. A fitting for the top of the mast is quite cheap. I also managed to get a fixing to the stemhead fitting just behind the roller reefer drum, but make sure the hanks clear the drum.

Have fun.

I think this is probably what I will do. Sliding sails in and out of a furling spar at sea isnt going to be much fun.

Thanks for all the replies.

 

[fishermantwo]

Another method is to remove the hanks and replace with rope strops and large beads to haul up the storm sail over the furled sail.

 

[oldbilbo]

Another method is to remove the hanks and replace with rope strops and large beads to haul up the storm sail over the furled sail.

Find me a sailmaker who suggests, face-to-face, that works in practice - i.e. when the wind is blowing. Go on, I challenge you to name one.....

 

[wklein]

Go for the seperate inner stay as getting the sail off/on the roller to change to a jib will be the uard part. Moving a stay out and just hanking on a differnt sail is a lot less hassle. When I have had this arrangement I have always used the 100% jib a lot more and makes sailing in moderate winds so much nicer. As has been said the highfield lever is the expensive bit but on my old Hillyard I just tesioned with a 4:1 or 5:1 block system with dynema. A fitting for the top of the mast is quite cheap. I also managed to get a fixing to the stemhead fitting just behind the roller reefer drum, but make sure the hanks clear the drum.

Have fun.

I would look on ebay for a seasure 6mm forestay lever and then use 5mm stay with talurit eyes. You could always stick a good quality snap shackle on a backstay lever if thats easier to get hold of. This one would be ideal:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seasure-Yacht-Backstay-Adjuster-/330703127300?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sailing&hash=item4cff714304

 

[fishermantwo]

Find me a sailmaker who suggests, face-to-face, that works in practice - i.e. when the wind is blowing. Go on, I challenge you to name one.....

Well I obviously don't know the same sailmakers you do. I have just completed a storm sail to be used like that, its on the machine table still with some stitching still to finish off. For the size yacht and size of sail we are discussing its more feasible than an emergency forestay thats going to drive you crazy when not in use.

 

[wklein]

Well I obviously don't know the same sailmakers you do. I have just completed a storm sail to be used like that, its on the machine table still with some stitching still to finish off. For the size yacht and size of sail we are discussing its more feasible than an emergency forestay thats going to drive you crazy when not in use.

Sorry to agree but i think they are better suited to coded boats which are obliged to have them but have no intention of ever using it. Can't see it working in practice.

 

[Poignard]

http://reefrite-na.com/kiwi-slides/kiwi-slide-details