Artemisia - new build thread for a Prestige 680

[Deleted User YDKXO]

About the master cabin. All the blurb and MBY say its on the main deck, which I take to mean same level as the saloon etc.

Maybe MAFWeiss can explain further but AFAIK its 5 or 5 steps down forward of the saloon - see this vid at about 4.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chm4KTjRzzc. For me the attraction would be that you get the same kind of volume as a 'standard' midships master cabin but at a higher level which means fewer vertiginous steps to get down to it and more light in it too plus the fact that its further away from the machinery, particularly the gennie if you're running it at night at anchor. Also its completely separated from the guest accommodation. The downside of course could be that you hear the grinding of the anchor chain more clearly!

 

[Anders_P42]

Here's another vid with nice walk through. Owners cabin looks great.

 

[Whitelighter]

Owners cabin looks superb, as does the rest of the boat.

Was just struggling to see what MB&Y found so revolutionary. I get the shallow steps down but it's not really main deck level is it.

Doesn't stop it being bloody lovely though. And I think the hull colour and options the op has chosen will be superb.

 

[westernman]

I live in a 3 story house in the south of France with air conditioning in all rooms, the usual Nespresso machines, 52in TVs, electric kettles, ovens etc.

Our house is limited to 6KW and we have never tripped the supply.

Why do you need a 22.5KW generator in a boat? Ok it is a big boat, but still a lot smaller than my house.

Looks nice by the way.....

 

[MAFWeiss]

About the master cabin. All the blurb and MBY say its on the main deck, which I take to mean same level as the saloon etc. But looking at the boat the fordeck seems normal height. Can someone clarify, are there steps at all to the forward master (as it sounds like) - if so, whats under the master cabin? Or is it just a slightly raised forward cabin? The layout plans dont make it clear

There are about four steps down to the master cabin, so in truth it is not at the same level as the salon… nor could it ever be with the lower helm on the same level too!!

 

[Whitelighter]

There are about four steps down to the master cabin, so in truth it is not at the same level as the salon… nor could it ever be with the lower helm on the same level too!!

That's sort of what I wondered, after reading early descriptions I expected a sort of pilot house arrangement.

Not knocking the boat, I was just confused by the early press blurb. Looking forward to having a nosey at Libs

 

[MAFWeiss]

Maybe MAFWeiss can explain further but AFAIK its 5 or 5 steps down forward of the saloon - see this vid at about 4.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chm4KTjRzzc. For me the attraction would be that you get the same kind of volume as a 'standard' midships master cabin but at a higher level which means fewer vertiginous steps to get down to it and more light in it too plus the fact that its further away from the machinery, particularly the gennie if you're running it at night at anchor. Also its completely separated from the guest accommodation. The downside of course could be that you hear the grinding of the anchor chain more clearly!

We are very excited at the prospect of our cabin in the bow being as far as possible from the noise of the generator, air-con units, etc in the engine room. This was a deal clincher for us. Hitherto without the benefit of having a stabiliser, mooring up overnight on anchor with a bit of a swell is not something we enjoyed. And in truth we actually also like being in marina overnight as well, to enjoy not only food shopping, to explore, enjoy meals out, drinks/coffees in bars etc, but also to get a bit of exercise after being on board all day.

So now with the 680, especially if we are on our own, we can (hopefully) happily moor up overnight at anchor even with a swell and then be able keep the generator going with the stabiliser and if not that, then certainly the aircon and not be too disturbed by noise - albeit invariably there will be some. With the extreme heat of high summer, allied to the humidity, aircon is essential. As for the sound of slapping waves on the bow, this is something we actually enjoy. As for the grinding of the anchor chain, hopefully a snubber will help ameliorate that.

 

[MAFWeiss]

Impressive thread (and boat!) indeed, many thanks for taking the time to share the experience with us! :encouragement:

If you don't mind me asking, did you possibly take a pic where the hull is shown bottom up, like in your opening pic below, but where also the bow is visible?
I'd be curious to see how they joined the V shaped hull bottom with the larger deck on top.

Here you go Mapism… just for you! This was taken last July at the factory, and is of - I think - hull 2 that went to the USA. Hope this helps. A view of the stern too, with the old Aqualuma lights, and with the Volvo Interceptor tabs.

 

[Piers]

Changing the layout of the flybridge galley, and upgrading to a larger and better Gaggenau grill

It's lovely reading your excited post and seeing the responses. Makes me think again about upgrading Play d'eau....

BUT, seeing your upgraded flybrige grill, reminds me that I didn't want any cooking capability on the flybridge. Why? For fear of the fat stains on the teak....OK, I accept I'm a bit OCD!

Have great fun developing your fine vessel.

 

[pks1702]

Great looking craft congratulations.

The video Anders posted was very innovative showing off the key features.

Look forward to the updates.

 

[MAFWeiss]

Great looking craft congratulations.

The video Anders posted was very innovative showing off the key features.

Look forward to the updates.

That one is computer generated. This is a much better video, with the real boat, though in truth its more about lifestyle than informative. Note the not very useful original design of of the fly galley with a too small grill. The male model (clearly not) cooking tomatoes is hilarious. Still its very beautifully photographed, the boat looks great and I like the music :encouragement:

 

[jfm]

It's lovely reading your excited post and seeing the responses. Makes me think again about upgrading Play d'eau....

BUT, seeing your upgraded flybrige grill, reminds me that I didn't want any cooking capability on the flybridge. Why? For fear of the fat stains on the teak....OK, I accept I'm a bit OCD!

Have great fun developing your fine vessel.

Yup, the flybridge grill on my boat has never been used. All the food comes up from the galley which is but a few steps away. But I can definitely understand people wanting a flybridge grill now and again -each to their own

Mafweiss, on a boat this big and stabilised I'd urge you to think about those Perspex drink holders as shown in that picture. They're camper van dirt traps and they detract from your fine ship. Builders don't get this. I deleted absolutely all of the blighters from the build spec of my boat and don't regret it. You certainly don't need them. Go for the clean look without these blue Perspex things.

Remember you must lead the designers not follow them, when buying a large boat from a shipyard used to smaller boats (as indeed you are doing, and bravo to you). If you bought a feadship the shipyard wouldn't suggest these things in the first place

 

[MAFWeiss]

Yup, the flybridge grill on my boat has never been used. All the food comes up from the galley which is but a few steps away. But I can definitely understand people wanting a flybridge grill now and again -each to their own

Mafweiss, on a boat this big and stabilised I'd urge you to think about those Perspex drink holders as shown in that picture. They're camper van dirt traps and they detract from your fine ship. Builders don't get this. I deleted absolutely all of the blighters from the build spec of my boat and don't regret it. You certainly don't need them. Go for the clean look without these blue Perspex things.

Remember you must lead the designers not follow them, when buying a large boat from a shipyard used to smaller boats (as indeed you are doing, and bravo to you). If you bought a feadship the shipyard wouldn't suggest these things in the first place

Dont worry the holders -which actually are stainless steel - are history! Btw I love to cook on the flybridge and do it whenever I can. Just off to show now

 

[Nigelpickin]

Dont worry the holders -which actually are stainless steel - are history! Btw I love to cook on the flybridge and do it whenever I can. Just off to show now

Have a great day mark and congrats again for exciting times ahead, hull 7 wow; they are certainly doing some business with the 680.

Won't be coming to the show as we are currently crossing the pond on QM2 and can't afford to take any more time of work on our return; give my regards to Nick and Ashleyand have a great day. Look forward to hearing more as things progress.

 

[MapisM]

Here you go Mapism… just for you! This was taken last July at the factory, and is of - I think - hull 2 that went to the USA. Hope this helps.

Yup, many thanks, that's exactly what I was curious to see.
Interestingly, they don't seem to have flared a lot the bow above the w/l, as I was expecting.
It's actually the other way round, sort of: looking at the profile on port side of the bow, it looks like they began enlarging the hull as low down as possible.
I'm curious to hear your impressions after you will have had a chance to cruise in some heavy head sea, because in theory that looks like a recipe for a very bumpy ride.
Otoh, the boat obviously isn't meant for ocean crossing, and everything is a compromise, as we all know.
Looking at the internal space and layout, a compromise probably worth making! :encouragement:

 

[Jimmyjames]

Looks lovely! You wont need a lot of tuition with the IPS system, its absolute childs play. I had a go on a pilot boat at Seaworks fitted with them and they are easily as maneuverable as Jets without the need for bow and stern thrusters. There is some really clever kit on the market at the moment.

 

[scubaman]

Many congratulations MAFWeiss, she will be a brilliant platform for you to enjoy the sea. And in a very beautiful part of the world too!

Seriously contemplating going to the Dusseldorf show. If I do, must try to get onboard the 680.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Yup, many thanks, that's exactly what I was curious to see.
Interestingly, they don't seem to have flared a lot the bow above the w/l, as I was expecting.
It's actually the other way round, sort of: looking at the profile on port side of the bow, it looks like they began enlarging the hull as low down as possible.

I don't think thats anything unusual. If you look at most current designs of planing boat from head on, you'll see that the hull fills out pretty low down near the waterline. Boat builders know that it is accommodation that sells boats at boat shows rather than head sea performance. FWIW I don't think that the seakindliness of production planing boats has improved much if at all over the decades. They slam into a head sea and romp along in a following sea

 

[Pinnacle]

Very many congratulations, MAFWeiss, both on the purchase and the thread. I bet you cant wait until you get your hands on her! I hope she brings you great cruising and much happiness. :encouragement:

 

[MapisM]

I don't think that the seakindliness of production planing boats has improved much if at all over the decades. They slam into a head sea and romp along in a following sea

Yep, by and large I agree. Of course, no P boat has ever been designed for a Nordhavn-esque usage.
But if you look at boats like the F630 or the P67 (just to make a couple of familiar examples... ), in both of them the V shape of the hull continues above the w/l, approximately with the same angle, up to the deck level.
To make the pointy bit of the deck significantly larger, as it is in the P680, the "V" practically must disappear, requiring the upper part of the bow to be much more rounded and fat, so to speak.
At a guess, that shouldn't make any difference as long as the sea conditions allow cruising at planing speed, but at D speed, when occasionally the whole bow hit green water, I would expect the slamming to be noticeably higher.
But I'm just speculating of course - I did say that I'd be curious to hear from the OP after he will have tried some rough stuff!