demonboy
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You could be a live-aboard within a live-aboard.
Are you a satisfied live-aboard?
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wingdiver
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It seems that you are saying someone who lives on their boat for nine months or more but does 'normal' house owner cruising doesn't count.
Sounds a bit of a cheek to me. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I can see why you might want to exclude things that float and can't go anywhere or ones that are permanently on land but there are a large number of people who have chosen to live on their boats rather than in houses who haven't made the big break yet (but are working towards it).
We have lived on board for 10 years now and are on our second boat.
We both work full time with a view to heading off who knows when and who knows where.
We love it and wouldn't go back.
We have 'house sat' for some friends a few times and have hated it.
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Sounds a bit of a cheek to me. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I can see why you might want to exclude things that float and can't go anywhere or ones that are permanently on land but there are a large number of people who have chosen to live on their boats rather than in houses who haven't made the big break yet (but are working towards it).
We have lived on board for 10 years now and are on our second boat.
We both work full time with a view to heading off who knows when and who knows where.
We love it and wouldn't go back.
We have 'house sat' for some friends a few times and have hated it.
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Grehan
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Is that thing a coffin??? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
rickp
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It seems that you are saying someone who lives on their boat for nine months or more but does 'normal' house owner cruising doesn't count.
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Well, yes. I personally think that living aboard a relatively static boat is easier than living aboard one which spends most of its time at anchor and/or in a new port every few weeks. I think its a significant factor in how happy people are living aboard.
I guess it depends on what the original question was aiming to find out. Was it about the liveabord nomadic life pottering around the med/caribbean etc, or about living aboard in a Brighton Marina and just heading out for a typical summer holiday (for example)?
Rick
It seems that you are saying someone who lives on their boat for nine months or more but does 'normal' house owner cruising doesn't count.
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Well, yes. I personally think that living aboard a relatively static boat is easier than living aboard one which spends most of its time at anchor and/or in a new port every few weeks. I think its a significant factor in how happy people are living aboard.
I guess it depends on what the original question was aiming to find out. Was it about the liveabord nomadic life pottering around the med/caribbean etc, or about living aboard in a Brighton Marina and just heading out for a typical summer holiday (for example)?
Rick
LadyJessie
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Was it about the liveabord nomadic life pottering around the med/caribbean etc, or about living aboard in a Brighton Marina and just heading out for a typical summer holiday (for example)
[/ QUOTE ]That is a great question and one which constantly throws up misunderstandings on this thread. "Liveaboard" is not well defined. I have always taken it to mean that this thread is for the wandering cruising types, of which I hope I can say I belong. But there are also 'liveaboards' in Brighton marina and many other places that makes less than 1 nautical miles of a passage every year. My understanding (and hope) is that this thread is about the first category. The second would have very different issues.
Was it about the liveabord nomadic life pottering around the med/caribbean etc, or about living aboard in a Brighton Marina and just heading out for a typical summer holiday (for example)
[/ QUOTE ]That is a great question and one which constantly throws up misunderstandings on this thread. "Liveaboard" is not well defined. I have always taken it to mean that this thread is for the wandering cruising types, of which I hope I can say I belong. But there are also 'liveaboards' in Brighton marina and many other places that makes less than 1 nautical miles of a passage every year. My understanding (and hope) is that this thread is about the first category. The second would have very different issues.
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highandry
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I agree with that view Ladyjessie. My thoughts are that a static liveaboard is no more free of the daily restrictions, officialdom and stresses of everyday life than the folk who live across the road from the marina in flat 3..A purely personal view from me is that while nomadic life has it's own stresses, Is she dragging? what's the weather going to do? Where can I haul out? etc: at least I know I can, and have for some years, cope with what life brings. It's being able to control my own life to a large extent that makes living aboard so totally different to having a home that just happens to float. Just my attitude perhaps but ah! well, thanks for the berth, anchorage, mooring, now what's over the horizon?? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
edit spelling (again!!) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
edit spelling (again!!) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Grehan
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Is this the Liveaboard forum, or the Deep Blue Water Non-stop Cruising Year After Year We Don't Need No Marina Pontoons Oh No forum? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I foresee class warfare erupting.
"I am more valid than you are and therefore must be more satisfied."
"Four ocean crossings good, two cruises round the Isle of Wight bad. "
No mention of Tantric Liveaboards yet but no doubt they're waiting in the wings ready to stake their superior claim, based on keeping their sails up longer - and much much better. Sigh. Moan.
I foresee class warfare erupting.
"I am more valid than you are and therefore must be more satisfied."
"Four ocean crossings good, two cruises round the Isle of Wight bad. "
No mention of Tantric Liveaboards yet but no doubt they're waiting in the wings ready to stake their superior claim, based on keeping their sails up longer - and much much better. Sigh. Moan.
LadyJessie
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Well Grehan, given that this is the Liveaboard Forum and you are participating in it; what is your understanding then of what a 'liveboard' is? Would be interested to hear your definition.
absit_omen
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Precisely. It is not for others to define liveaboard. If you think you is one then you is one! Does not matter what anybody else thinks you are or defines you as.
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highandry
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Quite right too...I have a droopy tash and a big floppy sombrero..I am a Mexican bandito. So there, someone suggest that I am not and I will have a stressy fit. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
B175Chris
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Yup /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Grehan
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Well Grehan, given that this is the Liveaboard Forum and you are participating in it; what is your understanding then of what a 'liveboard' is? Would be interested to hear your definition.
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I think you've just defined it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I am wary of this implied and underlying "my credentials are bigger then yours" (so maybe you shouldn't be here) stuff. We don't need the Boating Religious Police checking our underwear and our haircut length for precise conformity to some abstract ideal passed down from the Great Live-aboard in the sky.
If anyone <u>defines themselves</u> as being enough interested and self selected and cares enough to post some sensible, or even clearly lunatic, but not exactly insulting posts on this forum, then Bloody Good Luck to them. I wish them all the happiness in the world, whether they're battling the storms in the Southern Ocean, have had weeks of flapping sails and no wind mid-Atlantic, drinking Sangria on the Costa del Sol, or are camping on a punt in the Lincolnshire Fens. I especially welcome Maria and SuzyRoséWorzel (although on what authority I would do so, and why I should pick on them, is also clearly ludicrous). Most of all, I wish them Complete
Satisfaction.
Hey, hey, hey.
That's what I say.
Hey you, get orfa my Morning Clewd. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Well Grehan, given that this is the Liveaboard Forum and you are participating in it; what is your understanding then of what a 'liveboard' is? Would be interested to hear your definition.
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I think you've just defined it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I am wary of this implied and underlying "my credentials are bigger then yours" (so maybe you shouldn't be here) stuff. We don't need the Boating Religious Police checking our underwear and our haircut length for precise conformity to some abstract ideal passed down from the Great Live-aboard in the sky.
If anyone <u>defines themselves</u> as being enough interested and self selected and cares enough to post some sensible, or even clearly lunatic, but not exactly insulting posts on this forum, then Bloody Good Luck to them. I wish them all the happiness in the world, whether they're battling the storms in the Southern Ocean, have had weeks of flapping sails and no wind mid-Atlantic, drinking Sangria on the Costa del Sol, or are camping on a punt in the Lincolnshire Fens. I especially welcome Maria and SuzyRoséWorzel (although on what authority I would do so, and why I should pick on them, is also clearly ludicrous). Most of all, I wish them Complete
Satisfaction.
Hey, hey, hey.
That's what I say.
Hey you, get orfa my Morning Clewd. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
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Grehan
I thought you were going to launch in to:
Hey you, standing in the road
always doing what you're told,
Can you help me?
Hey you, out there beyond the wall,
Breaking bottles in the hall,
Can you help me?
Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all
Together we stand, divided we fall.
which would have been very appealing indeed!
rob
I thought you were going to launch in to:
Hey you, standing in the road
always doing what you're told,
Can you help me?
Hey you, out there beyond the wall,
Breaking bottles in the hall,
Can you help me?
Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all
Together we stand, divided we fall.
which would have been very appealing indeed!
rob
LadyJessie
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Grehan; I think we agree more than you think we disagree. Yes, surely this is a Forum where all sorts of opinions and wacky people should have a say. I hope I am one of them. I was just trying to make the point that I think it is important to understand the angle where a specific question comes from, or you will have confusion in the answers and they will potentially be meaningless. This particular thread is a point in question; the answers will have a very different meaning to a 'would be' circumnavigator depending on if the responses were made by another circumnavigator or a liveaboard in Brighton marina that had never left the quay. It is all a matter of perspective and you need to understand the other's.
Conachair
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claiming that full-time live-aboards have a less satisfying time than those sailors who work some of the time in a year.
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Might be something in that, I've just got back to the boat after a month working and IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK!! Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that. After a month living in an Ibis one is feeling rather satisfied tonight, can't wait to get down the market tomorrow. And get some proper bread as well. No more long trousers or socks for the foreseeable future for me!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
claiming that full-time live-aboards have a less satisfying time than those sailors who work some of the time in a year.
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Might be something in that, I've just got back to the boat after a month working and IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK!! Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that. After a month living in an Ibis one is feeling rather satisfied tonight, can't wait to get down the market tomorrow. And get some proper bread as well. No more long trousers or socks for the foreseeable future for me!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
mandlmaunder
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Q. Are you a satisfied liveaboard?
A. Couldn't be more so! Cannot envisage ever going back to live on land, but if health reasons force it will go kicking and screaming!
Having said that, some of the most healthy people we have met live on boats full-time, so we have hopes that scenario won't come to pass. Guess it may have something to do with the Happiness Factor.........
A. Couldn't be more so! Cannot envisage ever going back to live on land, but if health reasons force it will go kicking and screaming!
Having said that, some of the most healthy people we have met live on boats full-time, so we have hopes that scenario won't come to pass. Guess it may have something to do with the Happiness Factor.........
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highandry
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A month working!! phew don't like the sound of that thank you, makes me feel all faint, I'm off to me bunk for a rest. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Conachair
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makes me feel all faint, I'm off to me bunk for a rest. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Exactly how I feel too!!!!! 2 siestas already today.
Actually, I am Mr Lucky in that it's quite good fun once in a while (rigging in entertainments business, hanging lighting rigs and the like) and great to meet up with friends from over the years. And they give you money as well! But all things in moderation...
Back to the original post, I think a lot of it's down to the sort of person you are. Some people can be perfectly satisfied spending the day baking some bread and an afternoon with some varnish and a brush while others.. well there's no pleasing some people. But i suspect the majority on this forum would tend towards the former catigory.
Must go for a little lie down now... /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
makes me feel all faint, I'm off to me bunk for a rest. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Exactly how I feel too!!!!! 2 siestas already today.
Actually, I am Mr Lucky in that it's quite good fun once in a while (rigging in entertainments business, hanging lighting rigs and the like) and great to meet up with friends from over the years. And they give you money as well! But all things in moderation...
Back to the original post, I think a lot of it's down to the sort of person you are. Some people can be perfectly satisfied spending the day baking some bread and an afternoon with some varnish and a brush while others.. well there's no pleasing some people. But i suspect the majority on this forum would tend towards the former catigory.
Must go for a little lie down now... /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
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highandry
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Ah! That's different, for one awful moment I thought you had been steering a desk in an office!! I agree, sometimes jobs come along which in fact don't seem like work at all and it's nice when you get paid for doing it as well. Have a good rest. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif