Appropriate clothing for November sail around South East coast

LittleSister said:
I wasn't meaning to imply that he shouldn't do a winter trip. Just that if his dates for the trip are fixed, he'll just have to take whatever weather there is at the time as it comes (rather than being able to decide which of windy or cold is the lesser of two evils).

P.S. Full moon November 1st, if he's doing any night sailing.
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Dates are reasonably fixed - will be looking for a reasonable weather window but it’ll be within a week or two...
 
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions!

I tried on a Musto BR1 inshore jacket and salopettes today which seemed to fit really nicely.

anyone with Musto experience who can tell me if this is a bit lightweight for winter coastal sailing? if So, what is it about them that is likely to be insufficient?

it’s a bit of a game trying to actually work out what the differences are between the different suit levels...
 
Hi, I found that the BR1 sweats as they seem to trap moisture inside the suit so I upgraded to BR2. As everyone else has stated good base layers are a must but get these from mountain warehouse so you don’t pay ridiculous marine prices, always keep your feet warm!
 
MattStibbs said:
It’s a Moody 28 with three crew. Given I don’t have most of the kit though, I’m more concerned with making sure I have the right stuff rather than minding space.

Seems like there are lots of votes for base layers so I will seek out something decent there. Any tips for middle layers?

Do you reckon I’d just be safer buying jacket and trousers new?
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I have found that a good fleece and a pair of tracksuit bottoms with inner mesh lining work well as a mid layer.
 
I think you will get much more use out of a relatively lightweight jacket. I had/have a full on Musto Ocean jacket but it's just too warm and heavy to wear for summer rain. I now use a lighter weight Gill jacket with the requisite number of baselayers and mid layer fleeces to regulate the temperature.
 
MattStibbs said:
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions!

I tried on a Musto BR1 inshore jacket and salopettes today which seemed to fit really nicely.

anyone with Musto experience who can tell me if this is a bit lightweight for winter coastal sailing? if So, what is it about them that is likely to be insufficient?

it’s a bit of a game trying to actually work out what the differences are between the different suit levels...
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It'll be fine. But hard to take the long view without knowing what future sailing you'll do.

The "offshore" stuff will be heavier cloth and therefore tolerate more heavy use. It'll have a better hood and collar and probably better cuffs; in very bad weather, you'll notice the difference in terms of staying dry. In UK waters, even in November, the difference won't kill you but it could make you more comfortable if the weather's foul.

If you intend doing future sailing in the summer, I'd say BR1 is fine. If you want to do more winter miles and more tough weather, BR2 is the thing.

Or (my personal advice), is to go XM. That way you can get "offshore" gear for "inshore" price.
 
RJJ said:
It'll be fine. But hard to take the long view without knowing what future sailing you'll do.

The "offshore" stuff will be heavier cloth and therefore tolerate more heavy use. It'll have a better hood and collar and probably better cuffs; in very bad weather, you'll notice the difference in terms of staying dry. In UK waters, even in November, the difference won't kill you but it could make you more comfortable if the weather's foul.

If you intend doing future sailing in the summer, I'd say BR1 is fine. If you want to do more winter miles and more tough weather, BR2 is the thing.

Or (my personal advice), is to go XM. That way you can get "offshore" gear for "inshore" price.
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Thanks - haven’t looked at XM actually so will try find a chandlery I can go view some in. Is it just cheaper because it’s not such a brand name, or are there other known compromises?
 
Outer layer; another vote for 'Fladen'. Norwegian fishermen and offshore workers use it and the prices are not unreasonable. Two piece is more versatile.
Base layer merino wool. 'Icebreaker' expensive but 100% wool.
Mid layer 'Buffalo' salopettes and shirt. This is mountaineering gear and has zips for vents and 'nature' breaks in the right places!
Leather seaboots and dry socks. If vour feet get cold you will be miserable.
Merino wool buff and merino beanie. If raining, wearing a peaked baseball cap under a hood helps field of vision. Or wear a sowester
As others have noted look in shops that cater for outdoor pursuits such as mountaineering, fishing and skiing as well as chandleries
 
Daschstein mittsThey are the dog's danglies for keeping your hands warm. Highly recommended by a pal who's into ice climbing.

A basket above the engine is very useful for drying out stuff.

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I bought decathlon sailing kit two years ago, given the price been very happy with it. If I had the money I'd buy Gill, Must or the like, but I dont.
 
Decathlon gear is good and relatively cheap. They ought to be getting their ski kit in soon and I heartily recommend their snow mittens. They kept my hands toasty in -20 (F) and snowmelt neve penetrated them. You'll need gloves for rope work, and I go with the ones with the thumb and one finger free. Layer up! A mate has a monkey suit from his days on oil rigs that is Ab Fab but if you're not a rig worker, gawd knows how you's come across one.
 
MattS said:
Thanks - haven’t looked at XM actually so will try find a chandlery I can go view some in. Is it just cheaper because it’s not such a brand name, or are there other known compromises?
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Well, I bought it and can't fault it. I think it's cheaper due to not marketing. I'm not sure if the chandlery even stocks it; I ordered online.

Maybe also because they don't do "this year's colours". I bought mine four years ago and the only colour you can get...is still the only colour, and it's the same. Very Fordist.
 
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