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dancrane said:
She didn't appear to be particularly stricken in any of the photos. Can we assume those pictures there are not recent?
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Since nobody currently knows where she is, I think it's safe to assume they are not taking pictures of her :)

They must be from when she was still in service around the Arctic.

Did the debts or some other liability go with the ship, hence nobody wanting to claim it? Otherwise you'd think getting your hands on that much scrap steel for nothing would be worth it. Scrap price must at least cover the towing, or they wouldn't do it.

Pete
 
Seems odd that her whereabouts is said to be unknown...would the GPS have ceased only when she sank, or may she just be adrift but undetectable? I mean, is the absence of a GPS signal the only indication of her having sunk?

I had imagined that very large unmanned floating objects get pretty close attention for the safety of mariners generally...but who would do the watching?
 
dancrane said:
would the GPS have ceased only when she sank, or may she just be adrift but undetectable? I mean, is the absence of a GPS signal the only indication of her having sunk?
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What do you mean by "a GPS signal"?

Despite Stephen Fry's idiotic "explanation" on QI a while back, GPS receivers don't transmit anything, and the fact that something has a GPS doesn't mean that anybody else will know where it is.

I assume they're talking about AIS, but who knows?

Pete
 
Appears to be a quite extraordinary case of Political Correctness and Elfin Safety by Transport Canada:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Lyubov_Orlova

The derelict vessel had been tied up in St. John's harbour for over two years and was being towed to the Dominican Republic to be scrapped. The tug Charlene Hunt, owned by American tug operator Hunt Marine, was initially contracted to tow the ship south to the Dominican Republic. Just one day after leaving the dock, the tow line parted. The crew of the tugboat tried unsuccessfully to reconnect the line hampered by 35 kilometer per hour winds and three-metre waves. By January 28 2013 Lyubov Orlova was drifting slowly eastward off the southeastern end of the Avalon Peninsula in Canada.
The offshore supply vessel, Atlantic Hawk, with a 157 tonne continuous bollard pull rating, under contract by Husky Energy, was tasked to regain control of the drifting vessel. On February 1, 2013, Transport Canada announced that on January 31 Atlantic Hawk had successfully gained control of the drifting ship, which was no longer a risk to oil and gas operations in the region.
However, once in international waters, Transport Canada decided to cut her loose. “The Lyubov Orlova no longer poses a threat to the safety of offshore oil installations, their personnel or the marine environment. The vessel has drifted into international waters and given current patterns and predominant winds, it is very unlikely that the vessel will re-enter waters under Canadian jurisdiction,” the department said in a statement. Safety concerns were cited by Transport Canada in their reason to not pursue a salvage operation to retrieve the ship.
The ship was located on February 4 2013, approximately 250 nautical miles east of St. John’s, NL (approximately 50 nautical miles outside Canada’s territorial waters) and drifting in a northeasterly direction. She could have ended up almost anywhere from the Norwegian arctic to western Africa, or stuck in the middle of the North Atlantic Gyre. Transport Canada reiterated that the owner of the vessel remained responsible for its movements, and measures had been taken to monitor the position of the drifting ship.[10]
On February 23, according to the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Lyubov Orlova was spotted at roughly 1300 nautical miles from the Irish coast.[11]
On February 28 the ship was the subject of news reports in Iceland and Ireland, and a caution to smaller vessels was issued.[12] On March 1st 2013 Irish media reported that a signal from the vessel’s emergency position-indicating radio beacon (EPIRB) was received from 700 nautical miles off the Kerry coast, still in international waters. An EPIRB only starts transmitting when the device is exposed to water, leading experts to speculate that the ship may have sunk.[13] The Irish Air Corps was expected to continue to monitor the region.[14] As of 22 April 2013, there was no trace of the ship.[15]
 
prv said:
What do you mean by "a GPS signal"?
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Thanks Pete, I did indeed mean AIS. I saw Fry's poor description too. As with a great deal of QI's entertaining content, I doubted it as I heard it.

But wouldn't a ship like this be noted as not moving much for days, by airline personnel in flight-paths? I always enjoy watching the motorway of tankers in the Channel, and if there was a biggish vessel in the same spot for days, I doubt I'd fail to notice it. Then again, according to Terror In The Skies, pilots are more likely to be absorbed in laptop-conferences, or just fast asleep in the cockpit. :rolleyes:
 
Minn said:
Appears to be a quite extraordinary case of Political Correctness and Elfin Safety by Transport Canada:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Lyubov_Orlova

The derelict vessel had been tied up in St. John's harbour for over two years and was being towed to the Dominican Republic to be scrapped. The tug Charlene Hunt, owned by American tug operator Hunt Marine, was initially contracted to tow the ship south to the Dominican Republic. Just one day after leaving the dock, the tow line parted. The crew of the tugboat tried unsuccessfully to reconnect the line hampered by 35 kilometer per hour winds and three-metre waves. By January 28 2013 Lyubov Orlova was drifting slowly eastward off the southeastern end of the Avalon Peninsula in Canada.
The offshore supply vessel, Atlantic Hawk, with a 157 tonne continuous bollard pull rating, under contract by Husky Energy, was tasked to regain control of the drifting vessel. On February 1, 2013, Transport Canada announced that on January 31 Atlantic Hawk had successfully gained control of the drifting ship, which was no longer a risk to oil and gas operations in the region.
However, once in international waters, Transport Canada decided to cut her loose. “The Lyubov Orlova no longer poses a threat to the safety of offshore oil installations, their personnel or the marine environment. The vessel has drifted into international waters and given current patterns and predominant winds, it is very unlikely that the vessel will re-enter waters under Canadian jurisdiction,” the department said in a statement. Safety concerns were cited by Transport Canada in their reason to not pursue a salvage operation to retrieve the ship.
The ship was located on February 4 2013, approximately 250 nautical miles east of St. John’s, NL (approximately 50 nautical miles outside Canada’s territorial waters) and drifting in a northeasterly direction. She could have ended up almost anywhere from the Norwegian arctic to western Africa, or stuck in the middle of the North Atlantic Gyre. Transport Canada reiterated that the owner of the vessel remained responsible for its movements, and measures had been taken to monitor the position of the drifting ship.[10]
On February 23, according to the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Lyubov Orlova was spotted at roughly 1300 nautical miles from the Irish coast.[11]
On February 28 the ship was the subject of news reports in Iceland and Ireland, and a caution to smaller vessels was issued.[12] On March 1st 2013 Irish media reported that a signal from the vessel’s emergency position-indicating radio beacon (EPIRB) was received from 700 nautical miles off the Kerry coast, still in international waters. An EPIRB only starts transmitting when the device is exposed to water, leading experts to speculate that the ship may have sunk.[13] The Irish Air Corps was expected to continue to monitor the region.[14] As of 22 April 2013, there was no trace of the ship.[15]
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I can't think of any reason why the Canadians would want to be stuck with the bill for dealing with her if they towed her back to St John...

I suspect the reason she has dissapeared is that she got close enough to Ireland for members of the travelling scrap metal collecting community to get a line on her.... She is currently being hawked out of the back of a dozen flat bed trannies down your local metal merchants.....
 
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