Anyone recognise this mystery boat?

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Anyone recognise this rather distinctive design? Seems vaguely familiar, but can't quite put my finger on it. She's 22ft long, 8ft beam, 3ft6 draft. Owner saved her from being shredded by the boatyard, but nobody knows what she is. Not a Vivacity 650 or a Cox 21. Perhaps has a hint of Robert Tucker about her.

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Unfortunately no way of linking an SSR to either a boat type nor indeed the owners as it is is not a register of record open to interrogation!
 
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Unfortunately no way of linking an SSR to either a boat type nor indeed the owners as it is is not a register of record open to interrogation!
Not sure that is quite true. When I bought my boat it was registered under SSR. I spoke to Swansea who were able to tell me the name and contact details of the original owner (not the person who sold it to me). I knew the boat details of course so not certain what info they used, as the name had been changed.
 
I know you say it is not a Cox 21 but it looks a lot like one, even has that skylight type thing in front of the hatch. Think they came bilge or fin.
 
Not sure that is quite true. When I bought my boat it was registered under SSR. I spoke to Swansea who were able to tell me the name and contact details of the original owner (not the person who sold it to me). I knew the boat details of course so not certain what info they used, as the name had been changed.
Yes, the SSR Registry has some details but it's not publicly searchable, unlike the radio licence database. You can get (for £46) a Transcript of SSR registration, but that won't show the builder or model name, and will I think have the owner details redacted. Even Part I registration will not show the model though it will give the builder's name and the owners's details.
 
Anyone recognise the hull/keels/rudder from another model, perhaps? That might be another line of attack on the problem.

It looks to me as though it may be one of those models where the builder has taken the hull moulding of an earlier model (either their own or one acquired from a builder that's folded) that previously had a more traditional deck moulding with side decks etc., then commissioned someone to design a new deck moulding that provides the greater volume that was becoming increasingly demanded by the market.

The upper side of the moulding looks to me like it's a fairly sophisticated design, rather than something most yards might have knocked up themselves.

There was a Beneteau, I think, that had a similar window on the front of the hatch area 'blister' behind the mast. (Not that I'm suggesting this is a Beneteau.)
 
I know you say it is not a Cox 21 but it looks a lot like one, even has that skylight type thing in front of the hatch. Think they came bilge or fin.
Nope. The hatch on the 21 had an oval (ish) shape with the top raised. Yes to bilge or fin. But the bilge keels weren't like that. I have the original drawings....
No sliding hatch either.
Here: cox 21 sailing boat - Google Search
 
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I know you say it is not a Cox 21 but it looks a lot like one, even has that skylight type thing in front of the hatch. Think they came bilge or fin.
I thought so too when I first saw her, but she has a counter stern and inboard-mounted rudder, whereas the Cox has a transom -hung rudder (no sign of alteration of moulding). The stem is a continuous curve from forefoot to stemhead, where the Cox has a much straighter stem. Overall, she has much more rocker along the centreline, making the hull much deeper amidships and giving her a bit of a "pot-bellied" look. The keels are laughably un-hydrodynamic: make the ones on Macwesters look sleek! The deck moulding is VERY close to the one on the Cox, except that the main bulkhead is convex, curving outwards into the cockpit whereas the Cox has a concave bulkhead. I did wonder if this was another boat by the same designer / builder, but most likely to be a small production run of mouldings only, for home completion.

Many thanks for the collective brain-power put to this knotty little problem.
 
Dom, it is not by the same designer.
The deck moulding is very similar to the Cox, but the hull is entirely different. Looks much more like Robert Tucker: almost like a Corribee on steroids.

Arcady mentioned an Angus Primrose design: I believe he is thinking of the Seal Sinbad. This would be the right size, but again has a transom hung rudder, and overall is much more racy, similar to the Cox. The confluence of visual cues from different designers would suggest this may not be the product of an established naval architect
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and maybe the purchaser has beautiful eyes!

More to the point, though, I think one could have a lot of fun in that boat, which is surely what it's all about..

It probably looks quite good from the cockpit, and the interior will be fairly capacious compared to many boats of that type/era.

Happy sailing to the new owner!
 
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