Anyone know this boat? Is there a website/register of sail numbers?

[JumbleDuck]

OOOOOOPS Sorry folks, today must be "Ignorant Bobby Day".

So which west-coast of Scotland club flies a blue(defaced)? My BiL did, so I should know.

According to http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gb-blenr.html:

Plain blue: Royal Gourock YC, Royal Western YC, Royal Highland YC, Royal Western YC (Scotland), Royal Northern and Clyde YC, Royal Scottish MYC.

Defaced blue: Royal Clyde YC (listed, but I think now part of the RNCYC)

 

[Robert Wilson]

Ok a bit of fred drift, this site is quite useful if you see a burgee or ensign you don't recognise...
http://www.flags.net/UNKG14.htm

Thanks. Enjoyable and useful.
So BiL either was Royal Northern and Clyde (but that's with an undefaced blue ensign) or it may be it was a Royal Cornwall.

I shall have to ask him at Christmas.

 

[oldvarnish]

Could be a Kim Holman Rummer Class

I had one of those once - a Rummer yawl.

 

[A1Sailor]

CCC isn't a "Royal" club, so I don't think members fly the blue. I might be wrong... CYCA is the Clyde Yacht Clubs Association, so doesn't have any members - just member clubs.

EDIT: Sorry - should have read the rest of the Thread. (I'm a poet - don't you know it?)

 

[A1Sailor]

Can't tie in the sail number but it looks a bit like a cruiser 8 which is a clyde class built by McGruers. Some were built as 17t auxiliary yawls and it could be one of them.

Here is one
http://www.sandemanyachtcompany.co.uk/details/568/David-Boyd-42-ft-8-Metre-CR-1967/yacht-for-sale/

and the register at McGruers

http://mcgruer-register.org/listboats.html shows which are yawls

Fraser Noble (grandson of McGruer?) who works as a Marine Surveyor would surely know.
http://www.mcgruer-boats.co.uk/html/company.html

 

[Robert Wilson]

CCC isn't a "Royal" club, so I don't think members fly the blue. I might be wrong... CYCA is the Clyde Yacht Clubs Association, so doesn't have any members - just member clubs.

EDIT: Sorry - should have read the rest of the Thread. (I'm a poet - don't you know it?)

You are forgiven. I too am capable of Doh! moments, as you have seen, above!

I'll try the mcgruer website(s)


And oldvarnish, thanks for the photo. What a beautiful boat. Real style.

 

[Robert Wilson]

Rummaging through hundreds (thousands probably!) I came across this one, taken in Tarbet on my way to the Fife Regatta last June.
She's Elona, and on the mcgruer web page.

Verrry similar, perhaps the bow is a little shorter than my quested boat.

 

[A1Sailor]

Looks more like a Swan to me!
The yacht has a radar - the one in your original pic didn't, but it was taken 2004.

 

[Robert Wilson]

Looks more like a Swan to me!
The yacht has a radar - the one in your original pic didn't, but it was taken 2004.

F'goodness sake A1Sailor, you had me going then. "Of course it's not a swan" I said outloud!!
Then I saw "it" bottom left. Doh, too early in the morning for such wit

And looking on the mcgruer site, and also the Crinan Classic apparently the sail numbers don't match.

 

[Aja]

OK
It's not Saboo (Sail number 266C) a Holman & Pye 43' yawl which was definitely GREEN in 2004 and is green again - she was white for two seasons - 2011/2012.

Coigach's sail number is 129C

The Cruiser 8's were an International Class of which some were built on the Clyde.

CCC members may fly a blue ensign - but only if they are flying an appropriate burgee from a Club that is entitled to fly a blue ensign - but not during a CCC event.

Regards
Donald

 

[EuanMcKenzie]

Some of the yawls on the Mcgruers listing are 17 tons whilst Elona is 14 tons. Their styles are very similar hence how I thought it might be one of them

I stand corrected if the 17 ton yawl isn't the same hull as a cruiser 8. I was putting 2+2 together based on something i read on the McGruers site that there were a few yawl rigged 8's

I notice Sule Skerry is the first of four built and doesnt have the doghouse and has a sprayhood

http://mcgruer-register.org/Sule_Skerry_1958.html

looks similar but the sail number is wrong

 

[Debenair]

At a guess it's Rampage, designed by Arthur Robb for Lord Burnham and if I am right recently owned by the Taylor-Jones, parents of the MD of Foxs.
Owned for many years on the Blackwater and Crouch by Clive Garner.

 

[A1Sailor]

Funnily enough I too am trying to find information about Sule Skerry. Unfortunately the www.sule-skerry.info web address no longer seems to work.
She apparently attends the Crinan Classic Boat Festival:

 

[mudkipper]

The website worked for me ok

What a beautiful pair of boats and what a comparison to a modern aft cabin AWB.

You bought these two with your heart but I wouldn't like to guess at their cost if built today to the same specification and quality.

 

[A1Sailor]

www.sule-skerry.info website does seem to be accessible today. Lots of lovely pictures and the history of the yacht. :encouragement:
Still no nearer to answering Robert's question, though.

 

[Robert Wilson]

www.sule-skerry.info website does seem to be accessible today. Lots of lovely pictures and the history of the yacht. :encouragement:
Still no nearer to answering Robert's question, though.

Keep trying!:encouragement:

And two gorgeous boats. Wow!

 

[A1Sailor]

I've been in touch with one of the joint owners of Sule Skerry.

Well, at first sight and on a small scale, I thought it was Sule Skerry, but when I saw the sail number noted down I realised it wasn’t.
Not one of the other McGruer 43s either as they all had the traditional doghouse, which Sule Skerry in fact doesn’t have. I fancy she’s also a bit shorter – maybe 37 feet?