Anyone identify this boat please?

[petem]

Let's say what?
Sometimes it strike me that some owners (not to mention brokers!) have no clue of what any given amount of money can buy, in the current market.
Just as one example, have a look at this Alalunga.
If you think she's nice inside, and the e/r looks clean, you are nowhere near what the boat, which I've seen in flesh, actually is.
The interiors are utterly beautiful, built with a mind-boggling quality throughout.
And you could eat not just in her e/r, but also in all her bilges, bow to stern.
Not to mention the hull, whose seakeeping is legendary - just in case she might appeal also to Portofino! :encouragement:
If it weren't that we have too good reasons for not going that big, I would have purchased her there and then.
When you consider this, a £395k asking price for that Trader is beyond a joke... :ambivalence:

Looks mint. That's not the original bathing platform is it?

 

[Portofino]

Yup noticed some great deals in the 20M bracket in IT ---- one day ? Maybe .
Just not quite got the Itama -speed thing out of the system yet -- it will happen --one day I will grow up

That Alalunga has a wood hull, --- so going fwds interns of unplanned maintence "risk ' it's a no no fraid for me .

How ever Itama to Benetti I think will work ? ------ that is the prob where do I go from here ?

If our needs change and we require more floaty appartment ----more time living aboard on it -sell the real appartment in Antibes then ---- sell the Fr mooring --disinvest out of Fr -- sell Itama in IT ---
Also nice to have a plan B re Brexit -- if the Fr 8iss us off , then move to IT -pop up on the Ligurian coast -- nearer Switzerland -- better drive ,nicer people --really - and the berths more reasonable € on longer leases -some of them .
This----but I would ck out a few other 20 M,s ( not uk our UK stuff ! ) -needs to be classical -eg SL 62 , and any plastic more recent Alalunga,s etc
20M max for couple + occ guests -reasonable running costs --less so yard fees in IT
We would still come to the CdA in it ,but with a water maker ,bigger tender etc. be able to live @ anchor for extended periods in the season ---
http://www.mondialbroker.com/Barca.aspx?pk=2a164234-955e-4545-b8c4-d44a51884479

 

[ROW]

That's a lot of high quality boat for €300k! I suspect a negotiable €300k as well.

 

[MapisM]

Looks mint. That's not the original bathing platform is it?

Judging from how it was built underneath (the boat was sheltered when I saw her), I believe it actually is.
Spertini used to customize his boats to a pretty high degree...
I can't be positive though, and didn't ask.

 

[MapisM]

That's a lot of high quality boat for €300k! I suspect a negotiable €300k as well.

If you are referring to the one I posted, the asking price is actually TWO hundreds.
Not much negotiable, I would think - but still mind boggling, when you see the real thing.
I'd love to see her in the good hands of some mad forumite...

 

[MapisM]

That Alalunga has a wood hull

True - and also the superstructure, obviously. One of the very latest.
In the early 90s, not only Spertini but also a few other yards gave their clients the option of building in wood or GRP.
Sometimes, as for instance in BartW Canados, also with mixed construction (GRP hull and wood superstructure).
And you know what? I have it on good authority that back in those days, those who choose wood were widely recognized as the real connoisseurs - which btw, had to fork out a significantly higher amount of money, AOTBE.
And mind, most folks considered wood the most longlasting type of construction! Which, when you see a boat like this, cared as she has been, stands to reason.
I always thought to have maintained my old tub to decent standards, till I saw this thing (which is actually 3 years older!), and my jaw dropped.

Ref your future plans, if you are considering something more suitable than the Itama for extended liveaboard, personally I wouldn't doubt for a minute that the ideal Med location is much further south than the Ligurian Sea.
And I'm not saying this to wave the Sardinian flag: either the Baldricks, mainland S Italy, Sicily, S Adriatic, whatever - pick your poison.
But the mix of weather and all other environmental conditions is something that the whole Ligurian Sea, Sof included (nice as it is, mind!) just can't hold a candle to.

 

[ROW]

If you are referring to the one I posted, the asking price is actually TWO hundreds.
Not much negotiable, I would think - but still mind boggling, when you see the real thing.
I'd love to see her in the good hands of some mad forumite...

No sorry I was referring to the Benetti that portofino posted. Certainly won't be in my mad hands - enough to deal with without a large wooden boat!!!

 

[BartW]

True - and also the superstructure, obviously. One of the very latest.
In the early 90s, not only Spertini but also a few other yards gave their clients the option of building in wood or GRP.
Sometimes, as for instance in BartW Canados, also with mixed construction (GRP hull and wood superstructure).
And you know what? I have it on good authority that back in those days, those who choose wood were widely recognized as the real connoisseurs - which btw, had to fork out a significantly higher amount of money, AOTBE.
And mind, most folks considered wood the most longlasting type of construction! Which, when you see a boat like this, cared as she has been, stands to reason.
I always thought to have maintained my old tub to decent standards, till I saw this thing (which is actually 3 years older!), and my jaw dropped.

Ref your future plans, if you are considering something more suitable than the Itama for extended liveaboard, personally I wouldn't doubt for a minute that the ideal Med location is much further south than the Ligurian Sea.
And I'm not saying this to wave the Sardinian flag: either the Baldricks, mainland S Italy, Sicily, S Adriatic, whatever - pick your poison.
But the mix of weather and all other environmental conditions is something that the whole Ligurian Sea, Sof included (nice as it is, mind!) just can't hold a candle to.

P, that alalunga looks indeed exceptionally well kept for a wooden boat,
and also designwise this is a outstanding vessel, I've alway's liked AL's as you know, but we both know how much work (and money) is involved in keeping a wooden boat like that

 

[MapisM]

No sorry I was referring to the Benetti that portofino posted.

Ops, sorry, I didn't check the link.
PF, I've seen that boat, too. just two words: forget it.
Drop me a pm if you want more details...

 

[BartW]

This----but I would ck out a few other 20 M,s ( not uk our UK stuff ! ) -needs to be classical -eg SL 62 , and any plastic more recent Alalunga,s etc
20M max for couple + occ guests -reasonable running costs --less so yard fees in IT
We would still come to the CdA in it ,but with a water maker ,bigger tender etc. be able to live @ anchor for extended periods in the season ---
http://www.mondialbroker.com/Barca.aspx?pk=2a164234-955e-4545-b8c4-d44a51884479

that is a very good find PF !
from the pics it looks very nice, also the interior,
for me , just a bit too small, lack's one more big cabin,

would have been a very nice boat for MapisM,
but I know that he nearly owns one that is even better than this

 

[BartW]

Ops, sorry, I didn't check the link.
PF, I've seen that boat, too. just two words: forget it.
Just drop me a pm if you want more details...

oops I misjudged from just looking to the pics

 

[MapisM]

P, that alalunga looks indeed exceptionally well kept for a wooden boat,

You can say that again, B. And amazingly built, to start with.
If maintenance is a concern (and sure as hell I know it can be!), just as an example you might not want to have automatic sliding doors, silently driven pneumatically and completely disappearing inside the boat superstructure, without restricting the walkaround one bit...
...but boys, what a superyacht feeling!

 

[BartW]

.....20 M,s ( not uk our UK stuff ! ) -needs to be classical -eg SL 62 ,

haha agree, I used to call them "character boats" ;-)

 

[MapisM]

oops I misjudged from just looking to the pics

Agreed, I also went to see her based on the pics... :ambivalence:
...though I was already aware of the yard history, which has actually close to nothing to see with the universally known Benetti shipyard.

 

[BartW]

Agreed, I also went to see her based on the pics... :ambivalence:
...though I was already aware of the yard history, which has actually close to nothing to see with the universally known Benetti shipyard.

the asking price should have give a hint

 

[petem]

Ops, sorry, I didn't check the link.
PF, I've seen that boat, too. just two words: forget it.
Drop me a pm if you want more details...

That Benetti SD62 looks like it would be ideal for you. From the pics, the boat looks great. Are they library photos?

 

[MapisM]

That Benetti SD62 looks like it would be ideal for you. From the pics, the boat looks great. Are they library photos?

Yes and no, P.
The pic with the boat in the water is definitely taken from the yard brochure, though this might also have been the brochure boat back then, not sure. They only built 3 or 4 of them, anyway.
Interiors were ok, all considered. But it's in overall build quality (which was right at the top of my criterias) that Erre Yacht doesn't exactly shine, to put it politely.
That's in fact the real name of the builder, and just some bits of those few boats were completed at Benetti "Sail Division" yard, which has nothing to see with the world famous Benetti of Azimut fame anyhow - though some of the larger Benetti "SD" boats are nice, in fairness.

At the end of the day, it's always a matter of comparisons.
Nowadays, you can buy a VZ18 or a SL62 for not much more money, and the Akenaton 62 (again, that's the true original name of that model) can't even remotely hold a candle to them.

Besides, eventually we gave ourselves a hard size limit.
And while in many ways I very much liked both the SL62 and the VZ18, both are a bit too large for our needs.
If there's one thing I learned during this search, it's how important it is to resist the temptation to go for the larger vessel you can afford, focusing instead on which is the SMALLEST boat that is enough to suit your needs.
In fact, it's no coincidence that eventually we choose a boat which is not much larger than our old tub!

 

[petem]

If there's one thing I learned during this search, it's how important it is to resist the temptation to go for the larger vessel you can afford, focusing instead on which is the SMALLEST boat that is enough to suit your needs.

Reminds me of one of my favourite quotes...

"perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away"

 

[vas]

Akenaton 62 (again, that's the true original name of that model)

P., any idea what that name means, sounds rather Greek, but not quite either a modern or ancient greek word!
really liked it tbh, don't see anything wrong with wooden hulls , pitty it's v.unlikely I'm going to have money to change MiToS anytime soon, and tbh if I ever do closer to retirement it will be for something like a Moody DS45

cheers

V.

 

[MapisM]

No idea about the meaning of Akenaton, it ain't an IT word for sure.
Careful though, we might be at crossed purposes:
The wooden boat is the Spertini Alalunga of the link in my post #20, while the Erre Yacht Akenaton is the one at the end of Portofino's post #22, which is 100% GRP construction.