Anyone fancy a share of a big toy?

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Hmm. Well I already have one boat which is fine for me and Tutts. Think we need a bit of a plan for this beast as it hardly fits into the single handed class. How about MoBo Forum Boat, we could do cruises, have to tell a few porkies or be done for sumthink Though.

Yes. This thing needs to be owned by 6 or 12 all there at the same time or mostly. Else spend all year painting the bloody thing ourselves!! First problem I see. We have to find six couples or indivduals who all get on../forums/images/icons/frown.gif This could be the first stumbling block. Then I think we need a set itinery, so theres no arguing where it's going next week or next month. Any one who misses their turn a few times, gets kicked out, with maybe no recompence.

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I thought Cirolana would have suited us best but then realised it has a bow thruster so that's no good for the traditionalists. Personally would prefer RMAS Fiona as we could bump into things yet appear to be just carrying out our normal daily tasks.

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I thought we could paint it battleship grey, then just park it up in Devonport for a quick refit and free mooring. Call it 6969 or sumat. They would have to salute us.../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Anyway I thing you lot wot lives close by, should pop round and give it the once over. We aint got much to go on at the moment. Has it got cabins and beds. Or do we have to make our own. Does it have a fridge suitible for all the beer. We need to know a little more.

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Haydn
 
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It has a captains cabin with a bunk and a washbasin, and another 8 crew bunks, all in the bows. Suspect it will be pretty basic inside, but I bet the engine room and bridge will be great.

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8 crew jammed in bows

LJS, what do they do with the rest of the space in the 78 feet then? Is there a cinema or bowling alley or lapdancing bar in the middle of it?

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Re: 8 crew + skipper jammed in bows

There's a big hold somewhere, assume it's towards the stern, has it's own 3 ton hiab run from a seperate diesel engine. I can only assume the engine room must be huge. Nice warm area v suitable for lapdancing, whatever that may be.

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Well. Sounds OK so lets just buy it. I'll use the money out of the flag fund!! But anyway it looks like a good buy at the mo.
Can some one fill in with the details???

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Haydn
 
A LITTLE REALITY

So far it would seem there is lighthearted interest from Moose, Alistairr, me (milltech), Longjohnsilver, and hlb.

Now this is just finger in the air stuff, but I think in any enterprise like this it's worth recognising that if say 4 out of 10 do the work it will quickly die. Therefore a budget to run a boat like this needs to afford yard work, even if kept to a minimum. I don't know what the annual cost of insurance, berthing, paint and servicing would be, but lets guess £20,000 if we don't go mad.

Then I think we need to find more cabins and home comforts. A simple internal conversion, shipwright, painters, bit of electric, some fittings, soft furnishing, say £15,000.

Then there's the fuel....

So if we had ten aboard, ingoing with 1st years maintenance, survey etc. is going to be say £6,000 (purchase) + £1,500 conversion + £2,000 annual contribution = £9,500 each plus I guess those on board at any given time pay in for the fuel bill.

I'm happy to drive to Portland and take loads of pictures, but I think before I grab the keys and the camera and drive 2 hours each way the question needs to be asked, is anyone actually interested?

I mean REALLY interested. It's fun to fly kites on this forum, and if that's all this is that's OK too, it's been a fine fantasy, but I think it's time to find out if anyone wants to go further.

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Suspect that for some of us it's quite a big decision, out of the blue. We already have a boat, so do we want two? Are we going to sell one ? And will the communial boat be better, more fun ? Then theres the question of all being to get away at the same time?? Thats hard enough if I just ring LJS to come for a spin. Or any other mate, come to think of it. It's not the sort of boat you can go and play out in with the SWMBO. Now if we can answer these things. Then Maybe.

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Haydn
 
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I think that's a fair reality comment, and you're probably keener than the rest so I think we can probably consign this to the Walty Mitty section, but it was fun to contemplate.

I realise the decision is much easier for me, I currently have no boat, I don't have a wife who floats and I'm self employed, so actually this is avery cheap option and I've always loved big boats, frustrated tug boat skipper really. Cramming my trawler, draft 2.1m, into the smallest available harbour was my favourite pastime.


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Re: A LITTLE REALITY

The idea is quite attractive. The reality would, I suspect, turn out rather different. Surely a vessel that size needs someone almost full-time to keep the essential maintenance under control? Not much fun turning up for a day or weekend if you have to spend all the time catching up with jobs.

Now, if I was retired, living alone, able to afford the fuel, handy with engine maintenance and general shipkeeping (fail to qualify on any of those) - that would be a different matter.


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The idea sounds great. I to love cramming boats into the smallest harbour available. Also I suspect it would be a much cheaper option than owning a boat outright.

Now I'm semi retired so can get away most times, others arnt so lucky.
But knowing the difficulty of getting even three or four people to commit themselves for any particular week, let alone two three or more weeks, seems impossible. Besides the fact that most of us have never met, so would we actually like to spend a month together every now and then?? None of us can answer that.

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Haydn
 
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In one sense I think you're right, equipment would need to be looked after professionally. On the other hand, if there are several people aboard the cleaning and polishing doesn't take long, even on 78 feet. It's bound to have a deck wash pressure washer etc. All hands turn to, but I think we've agreed to its impracticality haven't we.

However, if your numbers come up Saturday I'm prepared to be employed for an absurdly large sum keeping it tidy and moving it from watering hole to watering hole.


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Oooh. I'd like to employ a deckhand/gardienne a la TCM but not sure if you match the required spec.

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My wife says they're bigger than hers, but I don't suppose that helps.


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Agree that it's all very tempting but they are 2 huge engines and at roughly 2 - 3 gals per mile it could be a bit pricey to run, especially if and when the red diesel concession goes, although with a total fuel capacity of 2400 gallons there's always the CIs to go to and fill up, red concession shouldn't go there as not part of EU.

Haydn's right (for once!) that we already have boats, then there's the mooring and maintenance issues, also how and where would you do the antifouling, you'd need bloody large careening posts to dry out on and against.

It still sounds like one hell of a lot of boat for the money!

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I reakon one of us should buy it. It's cheap Subject to a look around. Is it convertable to some thing sheek???

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Haydn
 
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You gotta think big boat here. Slip once a year in a decent fishing boat yard, deal with any abrasions and dinks, antifoul professionally, back in the water.

I was waiting to be put down the slipway in Buckie one Spring and was delayed a tide or two by a fishing boat. With not a lot else to do but watch I was amazed the speed with which it was dealt with. A couple of planks changed, some welding on the rudder area, paint and antifoul, all done and back in the water in no time. When we left the crew were painting the on deck parts. Not a yacht finish, but smart and fit for work.




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