Any SERIOUS person ...

[ParaHandy]

... reviewing the history of French boat design since William the Conqueror did fer ra English in 1066 would conclude that, like then, the Frenchies eschewed rudders even though the flat bottomed design, a design favoured as much today as then and suitable for the conveyance of two horses plus gear, gave no inherent directional stability and chose instead to hang a plank of wood over the side.

However, much later, the Spaniards in 1588 set sail with a 'proper' rudder and they didn't get here, did they? So the french ain't stoopid?

not much has changed in boat design .....

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[Beagle]

Dunno if the French ain't stoopid.... What I do know is that the Spanish armada (well, part of it) got to Holland instead of good ol' England. Don't think this change of direction was due too faulty rudders, think it must have been due to strong Westerlies at that moment.. We were quite a social lot at those days and endured them fur bout 80 years.... Then we got rid of them.... and sunk quite a bit of their famous Armada on their way home from Brazil, stealing gold to maintain their 'defence department'. Naturally, 'we' did return most of the gold to the origional owners..... or at least some of it, potentially just a little bit....

Modern Spanish yachts: I quite fancy the RO 330 (Ronautica), also RO 400 but that's a bit outa my reach.......

Anyway, wot was the origional post about?

Rene

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[ParaHandy]

Re: Holland ...

the protestant Dutch were on our side weren't they? wouldn't have gone there ... Duke of Sidonia Medina intended protecting Parma's land army crossing from Spanish low countries (aka Belgium, I ask you ...) where they were annoying the Dutch at the Scheldt ....

Elizabeth I demonstrated a mastery of equivocation (spin) when pressed on her belief of the nature of the Eucharist:

'Twas God the word that spake it,
He took the bread and brake it;
And what the word did make it;
That I believe, and take it.

... which got up the catholics backsides and set in train the events leading to the Armada.

anyway ... back to boats ... I merely am pointing out that the typical (french) awb owes its design to a boat intended to carry two horses, oats and men sufficient for the care and maintenance thereof .... and that design is 1,000 years old ....

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[charles_reed]

Such inspired

imaginative, lateral thinking should be extended to cover Germans (Bavs), as well as the French.

Isn't it curious that the countries with a healthy sailboat producing industries all go for this archaic design.

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[Twister_Ken]

SERIOUS enquiry

How did they persuade the horses to avail themselves of the holding tank?

Didn't the folding cockpit table get in the way during exercise?

Do French horses like fajitas?

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[StugeronSteve]

Jealous, just cause yer manky auld boot's got a great saggy bottom and not a nice flat trim one like me an young Jamsie.

<hr width=100% size=1>Think I might draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.

 

[ParaHandy]

... i wish ... ahm aboot to antifoul the sodding thing ...........

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[StugeronSteve]

Re: Enjoy..

nm.

<hr width=100% size=1>Think I'll draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.

 

[ParaHandy]

Re: SERIOUS enquiry

look ... Willie the Conqu wasn't running a McDonalds when he stuffed you lot ...

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[Beagle]

Re: Holland ...

Ah, French Yachts... probably the best price/quality range these days.

I thought in this modern age they had perfected their design by means of super-computer-calculation-programs...... or did they merely check and concluded that the origional horses-design was all right?

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[claymore]

Re: SERIOUS enquiry

Horses don't have rudders then?

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[Aeolus_IV]

Re: Holland ...

There must have been some form of aberration a few years ago, mine is a french built yacht - but there are no flat sections under the hull, and a very prominent, and substancial rudder to boot. Perhaps this is a consequence of an British designer...

Just a thought...

Regards, Jeff.

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[Twister_Ken]

Painting tip - seriously

Para,

Whack a broom handle in the end of your paint roller. You can then do almost all the job standing up rather than stooping, crouching, kneeling and lying flat of your back.

I reckon it halved the time I spent antifouling this year, and saved my dodgy knees and back a bit of grief.

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