epervier
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Going to view one tomorrow, they seem to be a lot less than their Hong Kong relatives, any reason why?
Any Owners of C Kip Trawler On Here?
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asteven221
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I am not an expert on C-Kips but afaik they were imported by Kip Marina where I happen to have had a boat for years, so I know a few people that have them.
Sorry if I am wrong about the history, but all the C-Kips I have seen are going strong without any design or significant build faults that I have heard.
Obviously like any boat, age and maintenance is important but in comparison to Grand Banks and Trader for example, they seem very similar in most respects.
Sorry if I am wrong about the history, but all the C-Kips I have seen are going strong without any design or significant build faults that I have heard.
Obviously like any boat, age and maintenance is important but in comparison to Grand Banks and Trader for example, they seem very similar in most respects.
asteven221
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I meant to say. If you are serious about progressing the C-Kip purchase then PM me as I might (I'll try) and see if i can get you a present owner to talk to our an email address for someone who would be able to offer some accurate history.
Can't promise anything though!
Can't promise anything though!
ash12
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I know someone who owns one well. Its a 46 I think, nice boat. Plenty of room as you would expect. It is quite underpowered though, struggles for ten knots, thats thrashing it though. Completely depends what you what to do with it though. This one came from the kip marina, it was brought down by a delivery crew, went through some serious weather and was fine. Good boat it all
Firefly625
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Going to view one tomorrow, they seem to be a lot less than their Hong Kong relatives, any reason why?
looked at an advert for one for sale recently and quite fell for it, just like a GB with wood overload interior which I love,... wouldn't be at all surprised if its not the one you might be going to see, is it a 1 owner boat just down the road from you? Time for a change already?
longjohnsilver
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I am under the impression that rather like my DeFever, a C Kip is a pure displacement hull, in which case 10kts is more than i would expect for that size of hull. If it has the 2 x Ford Lehman 120s then it's actually overpowered for a displacement boat.
ash12
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Ok then its relatively slow, especially in any tide. Sorry, by underpowered I meant in the way that its just a pain to handle as you always have to give it a 1000RPM just to maneuver. But yea you're right about the 10knts is over hull speed, as it does rise at the bow at those speeds.
LittleShip
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It seems to have been normal practice with the Trawlers to over size the prop when the Lehmans were fitted........
My Trawler a GB will push 9knts and that's it. Cruises at 7-7.5 with a Lehman 135 fitted. 700 revs gives approx 4-5knts
The fact that they only do 10knts doesn't mean they are underpowered....that's all they are designed to do.
C Kips like most of the Trawlers have an abundance of wood inside, they were if I remember correctly,... fitted out in different yards and some my not be to the exacting standards of others.
As already stated good sea keeping boat but like all Trawlers will roll. Anybody wanting speed should forget Trawlers.
Tom
My Trawler a GB will push 9knts and that's it. Cruises at 7-7.5 with a Lehman 135 fitted. 700 revs gives approx 4-5knts
The fact that they only do 10knts doesn't mean they are underpowered....that's all they are designed to do.
C Kips like most of the Trawlers have an abundance of wood inside, they were if I remember correctly,... fitted out in different yards and some my not be to the exacting standards of others.
As already stated good sea keeping boat but like all Trawlers will roll. Anybody wanting speed should forget Trawlers.
Tom
epervier
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looked at an advert for one for sale recently and quite fell for it, just like a GB with wood overload interior which I love,... wouldn't be at all surprised if its not the one you might be going to see, is it a 1 owner boat just down the road from you? Time for a change already?
That'll be the one, not time for a change James, a need for more room , I like the wheelhouse full sized galley layout, plus the aft cabin has a full sized double berth.
Plus of course the need to get into super-yacht territory with stand alone armchairs and full sized teak table
Firefly625
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That'll be the one, not time for a change James, a need for more room , I like the wheelhouse full sized galley layout, plus the aft cabin has a full sized double berth.
Plus of course the need to get into super-yacht territory with stand alone armchairs and full sized teak table
nice choice, looks like is been loved. I hope the photos match the reality...and of course I understand your requirement not to downsize from your current super yacht.
The Puzzled one
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We are the proud owners of a C-Kip 46 which we have lived on for the last 7 years. We were told the hulls were built in Taiwan out of the same yard as the GB then imported to kip marina. We have the 3 cabin layout with galley set down below and have lived comfortably initially with 2 adults, 2 kids and 2 dogs,,, to 5 adults and one dog,,,to 3 adults....?
Engines are Ford Sabre 120's which we cruise at 1500 rpm (averaging about 7.5 knots) to 1800rpm (about 9 knots)... If we need to we can get 10-12 knots and have had a top speed of 14 knots down a large wave!! We came back from France a couple of years ago in a force 9 and she took it all in her stride (the crew will give up long before the boat). There is alot of wood in addition to the grp but this gives her character.We wouldn't change her for the world!! Would also be interested to hear from other C-Kip owners.
Engines are Ford Sabre 120's which we cruise at 1500 rpm (averaging about 7.5 knots) to 1800rpm (about 9 knots)... If we need to we can get 10-12 knots and have had a top speed of 14 knots down a large wave!! We came back from France a couple of years ago in a force 9 and she took it all in her stride (the crew will give up long before the boat). There is alot of wood in addition to the grp but this gives her character.We wouldn't change her for the world!! Would also be interested to hear from other C-Kip owners.
Firefly625
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Going to view one tomorrow, they seem to be a lot less than their Hong Kong relatives, any reason why?
well David, how was it?
longjohnsilver
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Yes i was wondering that too.
burgundyben
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Are they able to take the ground?
I've got a displacement motorboat many years into my future and I have a bee in my bonnet about being able to dry out.
I've got a displacement motorboat many years into my future and I have a bee in my bonnet about being able to dry out.
epervier
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longjohnsilver; said:
She was short on toys, (electronic gizzmos) but veeeery long on condition, engine room you could eat from, or engines come to think of it, no oil leaks,no water staining, clean shiny chromed rocker covers of a pair of sabre fords, the interior timberwork a little agricultural compared to some other marques, but having said that all functional and no damage, the aft ensuite has a hip bath with shower over, not my cupatea, but could be changed out for a shower tray, throughout the interior the decks are of parquet hardwood, the soft furnishings are of dated colour system but in excellent condition, Very important bit, The Two Non Fixed Arm Chairs are not marked either
the teak decking of all the external levels also in extremely good nick, she is as the broker described sole owned from new and at thirty two years old better than some half her age,she was out on the hard when I viewed her and had the opportunity to check rudder stocks, shafts, screws, cutlass bearings, and p brackets, as well as a good visual inspection of the hull and skin fittings, she's probably priced at the right amount, but is more than I am prepared to pay.epervier
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I have no qualms about drying out with my current boat, as long as it's soft putty, the same could be said of a trawler, but if it's hard sand or gravel they do fall over a very long way
Firefly625
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She was short on toys, (electronic gizzmos) but veeeery long on condition, engine room you could eat from, or engines come to think of it, no oil leaks,no water staining, clean shiny chromed rocker covers of a pair of sabre fords, the interior timberwork a little agricultural compared to some other marques, but having said that all functional and no damage, the aft ensuite has a hip bath with shower over, not my cupatea, but could be changed out for a shower tray, throughout the interior the decks are of parquet hardwood, the soft furnishings are of dated colour system but in excellent condition, Very important bit, The Two Non Fixed Arm Chairs are not marked either
gizzmos can be added with ease....condition and 32 years of cherished use is unrepeatable.. worth a very cheeky offer?
burgundyben
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You never know, a chum of mine went to view a boat on the market at £60k, on the face of it not hugely over priced, he offered £30k, did a deal at £32k, that might be exceptional, but either way, might be worth 'bidding in the nuts'...
Firefly625
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not sure it is... have a friend who last year viewed a Broom 425 up a £275k, walked away as was more than they decided they wanted to spend on a boat. 4 months later broker gave them a call, asked if they were still interested and they said yes, but would not pay more than £200k, broker scoffed but put the offer to the owner who said yes,...broom bought!
