Anti-lassooing device

stevebrassett said:
I wonder why, given there is a float buoy and pick-up line, people feel the need to lasso the main buoy? I would find the pick-up line much easier.
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Beats the heck out of me, but I guess that whatever difficulty people have with grabbing hold of the eye on top of a buoy also applies to grabbing hold of a pickup buoy.
 
Perhaps a helpful idea would be to write the max load on your buoy. Many pick ups are just too heavy for my wife to pick up and then bring onboard to the cleat, so a lasso system is much easier for her, and then I can come and do the heavy stuff. Seems to work for us and no buoys lost. It also allows me to have a look at the riser chain and its state, to assess if I am too big for the mooring.
 
stevebrassett said:
I wonder why, given there is a float buoy and pick-up line, people feel the need to lasso the main buoy? I would find the pick-up line much easier.
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I was thinking the same thing. What could be easier than hooking the PU buoy - certainly easier that lassooing IMO. Must be they don't want the dirty incumbent line/chain on the deck only their own nice clean one!

Having lassooed on very few occasions (an RYA instructor taught me and SWMBO how to do it!) and only ever when absolutely necessary as an immediate secure to be replaced in minutes with a proper line through the top eye, I can see the arguments not doing it as a standard practice.
 
JumbleDuck said:
I am thinking of of making an anti-lassooing device for my mooring
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I do not know if anyone lassoed my buoy in my absence but I always had a long pickup line with chain rope combination and a couple of fenders as floats. It worked well, I would not of wanted to lasso it, there was also and easy pickup available for those that did use my mooring...
 
Ripster said:
I was thinking the same thing. What could be easier than hooking the PU buoy - certainly easier that lassooing IMO. Must be they don't want the dirty incumbent line/chain on the deck only their own nice clean one!
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The more weed the line has on, the more water gets dragged onto my foredeck to help clean it!
 
jdc said:
So lassoing someone's mooring is a complete no-no unless as an absolutely last ditch measure when the boat would otherwise founder or lives be lost. It is NOT a technique that any competent instructor would ever advocate.
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Advocated by John Goode, proprietor of Southern Sailing School, author of several articles on boat handling published by PBO etc

Before this degenerates into the inevitable tedious forum dispute, it might be worth clarifying exactly what is not the purpose of lassoing a buoy.

It is not intended to be a means of berthing a yacht to a buoy.

It is not a means of bringing a moving boat to a halt.

The pick up buoy should not be lassoed.

Properly executed it imposes no more load on the buoy, riser etc than does drawing a buoy towards you with a boathook.

If any mooring of mine was damaged by someone in a reasonable sized boat lassoing it, I'd think they had done me a favour by showing it wasn't strong enough to withstand the next gale.
 
I strongly dislike lassoing, having lost a buoy - probably to this. This was a hard-type buoy with a ring on top. These seem to be vulnerable to this. Apart from about £120 for a new mooring buoy and strops, plus a night in the marina as the mooring chain had sunk it was a serious nuisance.

As long as no serious strain comes on the lasso line there should be no problem, but if a boat is pitching and jerking around, or if the boat is left in astern, you can put loads onto the buoy that it is just not made to take.
 
parsifal said:
Advocated by John Goode, proprietor of Southern Sailing School, author of several articles on boat handling published by PBO etc

Before this degenerates into the inevitable tedious forum dispute, it might be worth clarifying exactly what is not the purpose of lassoing a buoy.

It is not intended to be a means of berthing a yacht to a buoy.

It is not a means of bringing a moving boat to a halt.

The pick up buoy should not be lassoed.

Properly executed it imposes no more load on the buoy, riser etc than does drawing a buoy towards you with a boathook.

If any mooring of mine was damaged by someone in a reasonable sized boat lassoing it, I'd think they had done me a favour by showing it wasn't strong enough to withstand the next gale.
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parsifal said:
Advocated by John Goode, proprietor of Southern Sailing School, author of several articles on boat handling published by PBO etc

Before this degenerates into the inevitable tedious forum dispute, it might be worth clarifying exactly what is not the purpose of lassoing a buoy.

It is not intended to be a means of berthing a yacht to a buoy.

It is not a means of bringing a moving boat to a halt.

The pick up buoy should not be lassoed.

Properly executed it imposes no more load on the buoy, riser etc than does drawing a buoy towards you with a boathook.

If any mooring of mine was damaged by someone in a reasonable sized boat lassoing it, I'd think they had done me a favour by showing it wasn't strong enough to withstand the next gale.
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On Windermere the South Lakeland District Council vhttp://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?374861-Caribiner-for-securing-to-mooring-chain-overnightsitor buoys don't have pick up buoys or loops on the top. IMHO the only way to secure to these is by lassoing initialy. Unfortunately one then has to lift the buoy to secure to the chain properly. This I do for anything more than a quick tea stop in anything but the most benign weather.

I do leave the lassooing line slack around buoy as a secondary unless it forecast to get rough in which case I rig another line to the chain.

Follow up question I have been meaning to ask here:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?374861-Caribiner-for-securing-to-mooring-chain-overnight
 
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parsifal said:
Advocated by John Goode, proprietor of Southern Sailing School, author of several articles on boat handling published by PBO etc

Before this degenerates into the inevitable tedious forum dispute, it might be worth clarifying exactly what is not the purpose of lassoing a buoy.

It is not intended to be a means of berthing a yacht to a buoy.

It is not a means of bringing a moving boat to a halt.

The pick up buoy should not be lassoed.

Properly executed it imposes no more load on the buoy, riser etc than does drawing a buoy towards you with a boathook.

If any mooring of mine was damaged by someone in a reasonable sized boat lassoing it, I'd think they had done me a favour by showing it wasn't strong enough to withstand the next gale.
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I see no problem you lassoing my mooring when you exert no force on it. But that's the rub; the only time there's any advantage in lassoing in my experience is when the conditions are so bad that using the pick-up or threading a rope through the ring is impractical because the bows would blow off too fast.

I did read the recent article in PBO advocating lassoing, but nonetheless do not want anyone doing it to my mooring. At least the article should have drawn attention to this factor - mooring owners sometimes, however illogically, don't like it.
 
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