Another what boat thread...

steve yates said:
Westerly Berwick?

Is a seadog a bilge keeler? If so that could be a contender.
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The Seadog 30 has a long keel plus bilge keels - I think you could also get one with a deeper central keel, and no bilge keels, called a Deep Seadog.
http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/seadog-30/seadog-30.htm

Scruff, have a look through the Archives on Yachtsnet - some nice bilge keelers there - and do an 'advanced' search on www.yachtworld.com (typing in as many constraints as you choose), and see what 'comes up'.
 
Yacht world I find quite dangerous.

Take the suggestion of a westerly berwick at, it seems to go for/ be offered at~£15k. I compare that to say a Rival 34 for ~20k which seems all together a more appealing prospect. Then I think if I shake the couch a bit harder I could pergaps stretch to ~£35k for a rival 36.

But then of course if I'm looking to spend that much, then £45k isnt perhaps too much of a stretch which will get me a 12m amel sharki so that looks far better value plus I get to spend a season or two in the med...

Then once I've been looking at Amels's then wee boats lose some lustre....
 
Scruff, If you want to have enjoyable sailing you get an Anderson 22; if you want to pose and /or entertain parties something like an Amel suits.

Most people like the look of my boat, especially once they've been along for a sail; seeing I'm on my 41st year with mine and have clocked up a lot of nautical miles - and 3 A22's have raced across the Atlantic - she's no ' wee boat ' - just not a big heavy lump to cart furniture around :)
 
newtothis said:
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a boatless man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of an Anderson 22.
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scruff said:
Undoubtedly an able wee boat, but one of the ugliest wee boats to go with it. IMHO of course.
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I think the Anderson 22 is a good looking boat. I wouldn't admit it to Seajet, though. ;)
 
scruff said:
Yacht world I find quite dangerous.

Take the suggestion of a westerly berwick at, it seems to go for/ be offered at~£15k. I compare that to say a Rival 34 for ~20k which seems all together a more appealing prospect. Then I think if I shake the couch a bit harder I could pergaps stretch to ~£35k for a rival 36.

But then of course if I'm looking to spend that much, then £45k isnt perhaps too much of a stretch which will get me a 12m amel sharki so that looks far better value plus I get to spend a season or two in the med...

Then once I've been looking at Amels's then wee boats lose some lustre....
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I was never keen on the idea that bigger is better.

Your Anderson is a better bet for club racing on a Friday night, the Berwick for weekending and summer holls, the Rival 36 for hacking up and down the Channel and living aboard for the summer, the Amel for lolling around the Caribbean. Put any one in a different role and they could cope, just not so well.
At the extremes; the 22 would be nightmare at anchor in Trinidad, and racing the Amel round the cans all the club pies would be gone before you rounded the first mark.
There is a lot of overlap but the trick is to decide what is most important to you. Amen.

On the original question, FWIW I would choose the Sadler 29 with the Westerly a close second.
 
WoodyP said:
A Kingfisher 30 would do the job. One has done several Jester challenges. Many have covered your requirement in full.
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Having learnt to sail on a Kingfisher 30 in the mid 1960's, it will do the job. BUT it is a very slow boat and badly balanced. Not one I would suggest for the OP considering his budget as there are plenty of other better boats to choose from.

My suggestion would be something from Westerly or Moody. The only other boat not mentioned are the Parker lift keel boats.
 
Well I've been on a lot of 3 week cruises in my A22 around the Channel Islands and West Country with three adults - I fitted the boat out with a better cooker and sink years ago, but nowadays do little cooking aboard on weekend trips but a good gymballed stove is very handy on holiday cruises - just saying that reminds me of first trips with a schoolchum and ' Vesta meals ' :nightmare:
 
scruff said:
Yacht world I find quite dangerous.

Take the suggestion of a westerly berwick at, it seems to go for/ be offered at~£15k. I compare that to say a Rival 34 for ~20k which seems all together a more appealing prospect. Then I think if I shake the couch a bit harder I could pergaps stretch to ~£35k for a rival 36.

But then of course if I'm looking to spend that much, then £45k isnt perhaps too much of a stretch which will get me a 12m amel sharki so that looks far better value plus I get to spend a season or two in the med...

Then once I've been looking at Amels's then wee boats lose some lustre....
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Aye but I would expect your Berwick will actually go for 10 k or even less? Also, if you want a bilge keeper, look in Scotland where most boats are fin, prob be cheaper than on the east coast where they are most useful.
 
Another vote for Hunter (British) here, Horizon 27, Horizon 30 and Channel 31. All available as twin keel, sail well, spacious and generally well built. Although some were home completed don’t let that put you off, for instance Channel 31 hull number 39 was particularly well finished!

Chris
 
Having owned a Hunter horizon 273 and had fitted out with the intention of doing the jester Azores but due to a family members illness never made the startline, it did become apparent the more I sailed it that offshore it would be a handful in fresher conditions and not a boat for comfort at sea on long passages.
A better option to fit your criteria would be a catamaran, shoal draught, easily take the bottom and comfort and space for long periods aboard. Plenty of types to choose from but you should be able to find a prout Quest 31 in budget or next on list a catalac 8 or 9 metre. Depends if you want a racing yacht or safe and steady cruiser with some pace.
 
I had a Dart 18 cat' and didn't like it, fast alright but zero feedback, it didn't talk to me through the tiller, just a machine going where pointed.

My aircraft designer sailing chum remarked ' the only time a multihull is truly stable is when it's upside down :)
 
Seajet said:
I had a Dart 18 cat' and didn't like it, fast alright but zero feedback, it didn't talk to me through the tiller, just a machine going where pointed.

My aircraft designer sailing chum remarked ' the only time a multihull is truly stable is when it's upside down :)
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If God had intended us to sail multihulls he would have given us multi- trunk trees. (Banyan tree excepted)
 
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