Another spot the boat

[Portofino]

Fine, but then you're talking of one single boat afaik, i.e. #278.

But it’s the kudos and commercial spin off , trickle down effect on the boost to the sales across the range .
FL are already unfortunately very familiar with what the path to the receiver looks like .
I’d have thought those two Russian lads would have had a bit more powder in their kegs ?
At Genoa the FL stand was a ghost town .The F33 was just walked by in conspicuous, anonymous.
I know they trying to sell coal to Newcastle......... but they had collaborated with a high end UK engine supplier as you say better earlier to get the optimum hull nuances for nutter HP , and say had one out of the water by the entrance with correct marketing , maybe a car if Mclaren or Bentley Le Mans runner if Bentley parked next to it .AND one on the water there stand would have been buzzing .
Spin off come in the form of [ car marque ] styled helm seats and multi fun wheels options across the “ normal range “

Genoa is a wet show and they do rides out .The FLs did not move .
Ok tricky with larger stuff but the F33 should have had a queue , there where queues and appointments times for rivals .

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

Genoa boat show success or not Fairline will still sell well in Italy if the economy is okay. I think they nearly always did ten boats a year minus possibly in the dark years of 2013 to 15.
The dealer (Due Porti) has a good reputation, and out of the three brits they have been long standing with the company for over two decades.

They have a good name in Italy especially in the North East and West. By this I am not saying the F-Line will sell well, I think the current bread and butter for the dealer is the Targa / Squadron 48 now renamed 50, and the 53. In the past it was T52 and T47 and before that the T43.

 

[MrB]

I'm only aware of one Lamborghini powered Riva, the famous #278 Aquarama.
But calling a huge commercial success a one-off specifically built for Ferruccio Lamborghini is a bit of a stretch, I reckon...

That was for sale not long ago fully restored, maybe still is. Beautiful boat.:encouragement:

 

[Portofino]

Abbate did some interesting stuff .

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1985/tullio-abbate-ferrari-boxer-off-shore-3510860/

Not sure I fancy the service hassle of this one ...4 x engines eek !

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2005/tullio-abbate-52-superiority-3490138/

 

[MapisM]

Abbate did some interesting stuff

LOL, I assume that what you actually mean is as per the 9th row in the conversion table below...
One of Tullio's most popular boats (the so called "Sea Star", a 22 footer) has been by far the worst of all my lake toys.
I was tricked into buying a used one by a low price (coupled with my poor experience!), but saying that build quality was appalling would be a major understatement.
Also, it didn't take me more than a couple of minutes, the first time we met, to award him as the most braggart boatbuilder I ever came across.
Which were quite a few, already back then: Colombo, Molinari (2 of them), Cranchi, Cadenazzi, Mostes, Woebel, Cesati...
But he has always been head and shoulders above anyone else, in this respect.
Also vs. his brothers, in fact - which btw were Bruno and Chicco (of Abbate "Primatist" fame), not Bruno and Guido, as I previously said.

 

[Adrian]

or could have been an obscure 208...

V.

Yes think you're right, fronts wrong for a 308

 

[Portofino]

They started out with cooling vents at the top of the front wings then ( I think around 79/80 ? ) with the advent of fuel injection moved the vent to the middle of the hood to improve air flow through the rad .
Engines were initially quad Webber carved 3 .0 L V 8,s . With a 2 valve head .
Then injection to meet American emissions in CA .Then 4 valves , then 3,2 for the 328 run our modal .
The first year the bodies in 76 were made of fibre glass” vetroresina “ .A lighter material , it was a weight saving measure .Problem was they took too long , bit like a boat , too labour intensive to make .Demand took off so after a year or so 76/77 they switched to steel as it was less labour hrs and also cheaper but crucially a lot quicker to knock up .
Simultaneously the Italian Gov introduced a tax of 37 % on cars over 2 L only for the home market .
Majority of sales ( to support the F1 racing side ) were going to export ( USA being the biggest market ) anyhow .
So they sleeved the block to make it a 2.0 L .
Externally no visual cue apart from a OEM std single tail pipe exhaust, but most 208,s had the quad pipe retro fitted before Del .
They did evolve the front bumpers and lights for various markets as well .Italian , EU and American and RHD markets .
About late 70 ,s they fitted a turbo to the 2.0 again only for the home market .This more or less brought the performance on the road up to the 3L .208 Turbos have a distinctive NASCAR air intake in front of the rear wheel to bring additional air to the intercooler .
Those in the pic in post #1 don’t have the duct so are not 2L turbos .
The vetroresina only came in GTB ( hard top ) no the GTS , the red one .GTS have a removable roof .
The GTB / GTS ratio depends on the year but near the end of 308 1985 , it was 1/3 rd GTB and 2/3 rd GTS , same for the 328 .
The early carburettor late 7O ,s modals to 1980 are said to be the best modals and the few hundred vetroresinas really sort after .
The orphan is the 308 i in 2 V , it lacked the delivery of the early carbs .
Quattrovalve solved that .From 86 the run out 328 to 89 had many modern upgrades as well as a bit more power .

Interestingly the GT4 Dino that predates the 308 ( 75 ) was the first mid engined V8 Ferrari .Body by Bertone .
Pininfarina did the 308 and everything until 2012 the 458 being the last of the line .Ferrari severed the link around that time .Its a moot point as since you can put together a strong case there’s been a few fugly shapes coming out of Marenello .
The 488 and others are in house Ferrari design .


Dino GT 4 with the central hood vent .The air is forced through from the front underneath and out the top .


Niki Lauder did a huge amount of chassis development and he insisted the same mirrors on the road cars as his “ day job “ 312 F1 .
It’s not the other way round .


77 vetroresina- side grills



328 hood central vent , but later 308 s were like this too .80 to 85

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

One of Tullio's most popular boats (the so called "Sea Star", a 22 footer) has been by far the worst of all my lake toys.
I was tricked into buying a used one by a low price (coupled with my poor experience!), but saying that build quality was appalling would be a major understatement.
Also, it didn't take me more than a couple of minutes, the first time we met, to award him as the most braggart boatbuilder I ever came across.

Tulio some people can write a book with him. It is a pity cause the guy had charisma much more then his brothers combined.
In around and after the 91-92 italian Boat Tax the guy got messy, and started building boats around messy places.
Some even outside Italy. The he settled in Catania for a couple years.
He could build a very good boat and a poor one. Another Italian builder which had a similar up and down spiral of quality is was Mano from Naples.
I rode a 1992 Elite 33 (original Como build) with twin Kad42 in some very rough seas and the boat was super amazing in these three to four meters heads seas at 20/25 knots but even flying in around 30 knots.
She was eight years old at the time which is when parts start to loosen out, but this thing was solid as a rock.

We have also a used Tulio 42 which came locally for charter use and I see it go out in any kind of weather and this thing with shafts rides so beautiful it is just admiration.

But anyways yes Tullio is a personality you do not hear about him for a few years and then you see him testing and running boats.
Bruno unlike other his brother was focused in his boating business and also build a fabulous boat.

I have a client who had the Bruno Abbate Primatist G41 Aerotop Evolution for a couple years, and before or after it he had Cranchi 43 Med with IPS, End 41 with D6 370hp, Bavaria 42, Zaffiro 34, Saver 330 and he does rate the G41 in another level in seakeeping and performance. And he is not the only one, as this is quite a popular boat in Italy having sold around 100 units in its ten years or so of production run.