Another Scam perhaps

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FROM: THE LOTTERY COORDINATOR,
GOVERNMENT ACCREDITED LICENSED LOTTERY PROMOTERS.
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT
UNIPAL LOTTERY NETHERLAND.
48/50 AMSTER-WEG AMSTELVEEN
AMSTERDAM HOLLAND
THE NETHERLAND.
TEL:+31-616-128-445

anyone seen this before


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Yeah - There's an advert on the telly - Goes like - Ello.. dis is de claims department in Holland - you haf wun the dutch national lottery and all we need is a small payment from you to release the funds. Yeah - I bet you are excited like me too .blah blah blah.

Just another scam no doubt, but check it out and prove us wrong - at least you won't wake up wondering????

<hr width=100% size=1>What does this mean then?
 
dont waste your time.
Why on earth would those nice dutch lotto people (ahem) suddenly decide to send you, totally unsolicited, a nice fat prize.
Come off it ...!

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If you have not entered it, how can you win it?
They will want an administration fee before they 'Credit the winnings to your account or issue a cheque'. After that, they will want as transaction fee, and so on and so forth...
There is a department at NSY that you can report them to.

<hr width=100% size=1>Nil Illegitimi Carborundum!
 
It's worse than that...they want your banking information so they can transfer the winnings into your account.

Except once they have your banking info, they actually transfer YOUR money OUT of your account.

<hr width=100% size=1>Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
 
Think thats a bit of an urban legend. There's no way I know for someone to empty your account if they just know your bank details (unless you hand over your pin number and card details at the same time - but no-one would do that).

The 'Dutch Lottery scam' is documented <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.stopecg.org/lottery.htm>here</A>. They try and convince you that you've won thousands, but they need a release fee.

Rick

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Story in today's paper about a chap who parted with £85k in advance fees to collect his £4M prize from the South African lottery via their office in Holland. He sold his house, his car, and got his parents to remortgage their house etc etc..
He still can't believe it was a scam. Equally, he's no closer to the £4M......
Oh dear.
TG

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Only if you were a millionaire before...

Run a mile, it's a well worked scam.

Graham.

<hr width=100% size=1>"I am a bear of very little brain and long words bother me" - A A Milne.
 
Dear Phil.

I am a v.poor boater with a nasty internet addiction and mates that can cause droughts in breweries.It has come to attention that you are the type of chap who would not leave a fellow boater with a wife a 38 children to suffer and as you have recently had the very good fortune to win a lottery could you possibly see your way clear to sent me a small cheque(a couple of hundred thou should do the trick) so that you will ensure your place in heaven./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

<hr width=100% size=1>Nastro Azzurro.Hoegaarden.Chang.Tiger.
 
Hi

I had this come through today even though i have cancelled my subscription to palm kernel seed monthly over a year ago (they must have kept my details) i still got offered this through email, its the beeswax that i think i might have trouble shifting!! these scams are getting as funny as they are annoying!

MIM COMPANY
26 NNPC ROAD
EJIGBO LAGOS
NIGERIA
TEL:234-8033-924567
EMAIL:mimco@fsmail.net
mimico2004@libero.it
Dear Sir
Permit me to introduce our company to you as the name implies above.
Mimco is a newly etablished company to Export Agricultural
and palm produce including sea foods unbehalf of CO-OPERATIVE FARMERS
in the rural communities
We have the following products in stock for Export
1. 100 tones of palm kernel seeds
2. 30 toneas of tropical raw natural honey
3. 100 tones of beeswax
We are making preperation to receive dry crey fish/shrimes to our
stock.
As a newly established we encourage our customers to make travelling
arrangement to come to Nigeria for inspection, confirmation
and shipment of the products , this measure is taken to safeguard the
products and the interest of the customers against any form
of fraudulent acts.
W e are looking for serious buyers our prices are affordable if you
can
handle this business please contact me as a matter of urgent
Thanks
Yours in Faith
Magnus Asquo
Export Director
 
Not urban legend, Rick

Anyone with an account number and the bank's transmittal numbers can electronically transfer money into or out of an account...the same way that car payments, mortgage payments etc are automatically taken out legitimately. The banking information these scammers ask for is the same information that you gave to your mortgage or auto lender to authorize them to take the payments. Once the scammers have that, they can take any amount up to the full balance in one transaction. Then they move it through an elaborate maze of offshore banks immediately, making it impossible to trace or recover.

Ask your bank how easy it is!

<hr width=100% size=1>Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
 
Re: Not urban legend, Rick

Perhaps thats how it works in the US, but certainly not in the UK. Automatic loan payments and the like in the UK are either done by standing order (which you have to setup yourself) or Direct Debit (which you have to sign for - and requires the other party to put up a significant guarantee to the bank - somthing your average scammer won't be doing).

If the US banking system works as you suggest, then I have to wonder why anyone in the US would use a bank - it would surely be safer keeping your pile under your mattress!

Rick

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Re: Not urban legend, Rick

Money is electronically transferred the same way all over the world. Ask your bank how easy it is to do next time you're in.

<hr width=100% size=1>Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
 
Re: Not urban legend, Rick

Peggie,

I have to agree with Rick. I'm not as familiar with the US banking system, but I do know it has significant differences to the UK. However, in the UK, it is not possible to have money transferred out of an account with just an account number and transmittal code. It requires signatures or validation. Any other system would contravene the FSA regulations (UK regulators), and also international money laundering regulations. Paying money in is much simpler, as it is assumed the bank paying the money has the authorisation to do so.

I doubt that US banks are any less stringent, as they also conform to international codes

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Re: Not urban legend, Rick

I get most of my billings paid (including internationally) electronically as clients know my account number. I also make many payments electronically because my suppliers give me their account number. The tricky bit, however, is for me to get money out of any of their accounts through knowing their account numbers but without their specific authority. Knowing their account number does not enable that.

Almost every employee in this country (NZ) gets paid by direct credit to their bank account so their employer and all involved in payroll know all their employees account numbers. Never known a case where any employer or person in payroll has ever been able to get any money out of any employees account through knowing the account number (I am sure it would be relatively common if possible).

Many suppliers provide their bank account numbers on their invoices to even their large numbers of domestic customers so that electronic payment can be made - they obviously do not consider that there is any security issue.

The tax people here give me their account numbers so I can pay my taxes - errr, mmmmm, hang on, see you sometime, I am off to raid the country's coffers /forums/images/icons/smile.gif.

John

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Just received this. Drinks are on me this weekend.........

Now which boat showroom shall I visit first?/forums/images/icons/wink.gif

WINNING NOTICE
FROM: THE LOTTERY COORDINATOR,
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT
QUEEN ELIZABETH LOTTERY,UK.

DEAR WINNER,

RESULTS FOR PRIME DRAWS

Congratulations to you as we bring to your notice, the results of the Prime draws of QUEEN ELIZABETH LOTTERY,UK. We are happy to inform you that you have emerged a winner under the Prime Category, which is part of our promotional draws.The draws were held prior to your notification. Participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from 4,000,000 names/email addresses of individuals and companies from Africa, America, Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe,Middle East, and New Zealand as part of our International Promotions Program.

You/Your Company, attached to ticket number 3344/3414-22,with serial number 36-47 drew the lucky numbers 27, 35, 40, 64, 84, (11), and consequently won in the prime Draw. You have therefore been awarded a lump sum pay out of £2,000,000.00 (Two Million Great Britain Pounds) in cash, which is the winning payout for Prime Draw winners. This is from the total prize money of £10,000,000.00 shared among the 5 international winners in this category.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Your funds are now deposited with LLOYD BANK, LONDON under the care of ROYAL FINANCE U.K LTD, a reputable finance firm in the U.K., insured in your name. In your best interest and also to avoid mix up of numbers and names of any kind, we request that you keep the entire details of your award strictly from public notice until the process of transferring your claims has been completed, and your funds remitted to your account. This is part of our security protocol to avoid double claiming or unscrupulous acts by participants/nonparticipants of this program. We also wish to bring to your notice our end of the year (2004) high stakes where you stand a chance of winning up to £25 Million Great Britain Pounds, we hope that with a part of your prize you will participate.

Please contact your claims agent immediately, to begin your claims process;

MR. WILLIAMS JOHNSON.
FINANCIAL CONTROLLER,
ROYAL FINANCE U.K LTD.
TEL/FAX: +44 8701 268761
EMAIL: royal_findire@yahoo.co.uk

For due processing and remittance of your prize money to a designated account of your choice.
Remember, you must contact your claims agent not later than two weeks after the receipt of this mail. After this date,all funds will be returned as unclaimed.

NOTE: For easy reference and identification find below your reference and Batch numbers. Note that you are to forward this email to the ROYAL FINANCE U.K LTD. in your first correspondence with them, strictly by email or Fax.

REFERENCE NUMBER: QELUK/4161/22-01/08
BATCH NUMBER: 3622-UK

Congratulations once again from all our staff and thank you for being part of our promotions program.

Sincerely,

THE LOTTERY COORDINATOR,
QUEEN ELIZABETH LOTTERY,UK.
4 JUPITER HOUSE CALLEVA PARK,
ALDERMASTON READING,
BERKSHIRE RG7 8NN.
UNITED KINGDOM.

N.B.ANY BREACH OF CONFIDENTIALITY ON THE PART OF THE WINNERS WILL RESULT TO DISQUALIFICATION.PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MAIL BOX,YOU ARE TO CONTACT YOURS CLAIMS AGENT FOR FURTHER PRIZE CLAIM PROCEDURE.



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