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Princess are not holding back with yet another new model launched today on their website

As I understand it, it replaces the Princess 60. There is a number of great features first seen in the Princess 68 and now in 62ft.

One interesting thing is that it has the option of a gyro only and not fins.

Will need to start saving!
 
Nice looking boat. The flybridge layout seems a departure from the current models with convertible seating/lounge area next to helmsman and a return of the sunbed at the aft end of the flybridge.
I'd say Princess is moving in the direction of Sunseeker in the looks department and vice versa (Manhattan 52).
 
Not sure I like the round (small) dinette next to the helm. All a bit 90s and they waste space and are impractical. There is never enough knee/leg room and it's always a shuffle to get out unless on the end.
 
admillington said:
One interesting thing is that it has the option of a gyro only and not fins.
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Do you have any idea of the reasons?
IIRC, Princess built a 56' f/b with fin stabs.
I for one would be curious to hear why they are now ruling them out on a bigger boat...
 
First boat at this size level which I've seen with both an aft galley and a dinette opposite which IMHO is the best of all worlds in that both the cockpit and interior dining areas are right next to the galley but the galley is aft so the cook is not left out of the action. I like the saloon seating on both sides further forward which is very sociable and even the little perch opposite the lower helm is an additional forward facing seat and is better than having nothing at all. On the downside there are no internal flybridge steps but no builder fits those these days which is a huge shame

Fairly standard cabin layout which is fine but why do builders all think its a good idea to plonk a breakfast dinette in the main cabin? Does anyone ever eat their breakfast here? Waste of space

On the flybridge not sure what the designer was thinking with that silly circular seating area. Why not just extend the main seating area forward and have a flip over back rest to make 2 more forward facing seats? Other than that it looks a good size. The now de rigeur forward seating area is nice

Good fuel capacity at 3400L which should mean the range at planing speed is close to 400nm. Water tank a bit small though. IMHO Princess will sell loads of these if the price is competitive
 
Is it me or is the accommodation deck identical to the existing 60?

The dinette opposite the galley aft is a very nice feature - as is the big lounging space.
I too would Mia interval steps, though until I had them I didn't understand what you lot were going on about. I guess then most people into this size bracket won't miss what they haven't had. Mine take up so little room (I have them instead of a second person on the helm bench) im surprised they can't be squeezed in somewhere. We use them all the time
 
Whitelighter said:
I'm guessing it's cost.
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Well, whenever you guess that the main reason why boatbuilders change anything is cost reduction, you have excellent chances to be correct - but I suspect there's more than that.

Someone who knows a thing or three about boat stabilization told me already some years ago that the theoretical advantage of fins (vs. gyros) is hardly meaningful on light P hulls with a short roll period, i.e. anything under 70' or so at the very least.
I think he had a point.
 
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Whitelighter said:
im surprised they can't be squeezed in somewhere.
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Of course they can.
Your previous guess pretty much applies also to internal stairs, which are more expensive to build than anything in the cockpit - so, if given a choice, builders obviously prefer the latter.
Otoh, with several premium boats like SL or Canados you get only INTERNAL stairs, even in some pretty big boats...
 
Yep, other than the ridiculous circular seating area on the flybridge, it's the usual Princess formula of evolution rather than revolution, but brings most of the better recent trends in boat layouts together in a smaller boat.

Personally i'm not a fan of bow seating areas though. First off there's no sun protection, so you're not going to eat there during the day, and no lighting so you wont use it for dinner either, plus it's too far to ferry all the stuff you need along the side decks and back anyway. So, it's a drinks area, but there's no fridge nearby to store the drinks, and you already have seating in the cockpit and on the fly, and if you want sun it's easy enough to lower a well designed bimini, or even easier to slide back a hardtop roof.

The only time I can see it being useful is in the marina, to give some privacy, but you can get that on the flybridge anyway.

Finally I like to store all the inflatable toys strapped to the bow, otherwise i'd have to deflate them every time we move

I've seen a few boats with bow seating areas in anchorages, but yet to see anyone using them.
 
Apart from stating the bleeding obvious - no internal stairs - AGAIN
I don't agree with Nick - The front of the boat is a great place to be under way at pootling speeds.
And you could always rig a parasol to keep the sun off (like MYAG).
Or even design a small bimini for the foredeck - something that I've been considering - even thought of fitting the tender's bimini on the foredeck - not measured it yet so it probably won't fit.
 
I feel like I've entered some parallel universe. We all seem to be in agreement on here, how often does that happen :)

I too think the round flybridge table is odd. Lots of shuffling round to get people in and out.

I Like the dinette opposite the galley, have been championing that from the P52 onwards. I also agree with the forward step through seating arguments. I said a similar thing when discussing the Sunseeker 95 after the British boat builders show. What could you do with the space? I'd probably suggest a sea toy storage area or possibly fender storage. Boring I know but having fender baskets impedes view and carrying them all back to the cockpit / bathing platform adds to the workload of a husband & wife operated boat.

I also like the fact the flybridge helm is port side, lower helm starboard. Makes coming alongside either way safe as you can keep a constant eye on everything.

The P60 has always been a bit of an odd model. The prefect evolution of a 40 something foot flybridge but it's size means a high price tag and I'm not sure it has any killer features, just perfecting little things like a full size fridge freezer in the galley. I'd love one because it's a logical evolution of our P50 but those 60 feet come at such a price due to the length based pricing structure.

This 62 might offer a bit more than just a larger P42 or P43 as is now.

One tiny gripe, boat manufacturers websites. How bloody hard are they to navigate. It took me a couple of visits to find the deck layouts. I assumed they were there but couldn't find them, then re-read some of the posts on here and thought they must exist so went back and looked again.

Down arrows, pop out from the side arrows, traditional menu click throughs. A random mess of all the different web ideas. Princess aren't alone, I gave up on the Sunseeker website long ago. Maybe they're all trying to weed out everyone bar the IT gurus on the basis they will be the only people likely to afford something in this modern world :)

Henry :)
 
henryf said:
One tiny gripe, boat manufacturers websites. How bloody hard are they to navigate. It took me a couple of visits to find the deck layouts.
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Well, the fashion of "form over function" websites doesn't affect only boatbuilders, TBH.
Anyway, I'm fully with you in hating them, generally speaking.
But in the case of this Princess webpage, I'm wondering if the display also depends on the browser used, or the IP address, or whatever.
Down here (using IE11), I can see the layouts just by scrolling down the webpage linked above... :confused:
 
Nick_H said:
Ah right, that's the point of them, it's so Deleted User can sit on the front of your boat whilst admiring his own :D
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Yeah, but most importantly, sipping wine in the process...! :D

...Hoping that MYAG doesn't read that you confused his small ship with my old tub... :rolleyes:
 
Nick_H said:
Ah right, that's the point of them, it's so Deleted User can sit on the front of your boat whilst admiring his own :D
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Umm yes as well as admiring MYAG's generous glasses of wine and the sunset

Having said that I tend to agree with you. The fashion for midships cabins with ever more headroom plus a seating area on the foredeck is making some boats too bulky and downright ugly. MYAG's boat is big enough to carry it off but I'm not so sure about a 60 footer. I think a forward seating area is one of those things that looks great at a boat show but in reality you'd rarely use as you say. Apart from anything else its going to be covered in salt if you've had a bit of a bumpy ride beforehand
 
I don't remember MYAG with a glass of wine
This was more his tipple

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MapisM said:
Well, the fashion of "form over function" websites doesn't affect only boatbuilders, TBH.
Anyway, I'm fully with you in hating them, generally speaking.
But in the case of this Princess webpage, I'm wondering if the display also depends on the browser used, or the IP address, or whatever.
Down here (using IE11), I can see the layouts just by scrolling down the webpage linked above... :confused:
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Ah, I saw the distributor list and assumed it was the end of the page.

There are too many arrows trying to persuade me to go hither & thither.

Henry :)
 
I don't remember MYAG with a glass of wine
This was more his tipple
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I was thinking more about my tipple! However it does remind me of the day MYAG arrived in Carloforte. I went to the local Conad supermarket to buy some beer. When I got there all the beer shelves were completely empty except for the topmost shelf. I thought to myself that there must have been some vertically challenged blokes in the supermarket before me who drank a lot of beer. I related this tale to MYAG himself later. Little did I know that it was him who had been in the supermarket and virtually emptied the place of beer and it was only because he couldn't reach the top shelf that he didn't snaffle the few cans left up there;)
 
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