Another mobo question please

volvopaul said:
Ross savage isn't a client he's on here , I've never met him however I've done a few miles on a 385.
Shall I start on Italian boats? Osmosis after 4 years is a good stating subject
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If you so wish, unlike you I am not aggressively defensive. I am happy with my boat, and have no requirement for you to like it as well.
I assume you do note all of my recommendations bar one were from British manufacturers .
 
All comments are informative to a mobo numpty like me, I can choose or ignore like I would on sailboat discussions where I'm not so numptifferous. Already today I have added Sealine to possible searches. as the 360 someone kindly gave a link to looks nice apart from a non - working generator. and no mention of dinghy/outboard to put on it's davits.
 
Robin said:
All comments are informative to a mobo numpty like me, I can choose or ignore like I would on sailboat discussions where I'm not so numptifferous. Already today I have added Sealine to possible searches. as the 360 someone kindly gave a link to looks nice apart from a non - working generator. and no mention of dinghy/outboard to put on it's davits.
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''Tis a small world Robin, my son bought a Sealine 360 last month. It's now kept about 400m away from Eos in the Dart. If you find yourself down that way do let me know. The bar is always open:encouragement:
 
longjohnsilver said:
''Tis a small world Robin, my son bought a Sealine 360 last month. It's now kept about 400m away from Eos in the Dart. If you find yourself down that way do let me know. The bar is always open:encouragement:
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We love the Dart but I'm alcohol free these days, SWMBO's rules after my stroke 5years back. But even a lemonade on your lovely Defever would be an honour!:encouragement:
 
I've owned a Turbo 36, Broom 37 and FWIW a Princess 435/470 as well. I think others have said enough on the T36. Its a great boat with fantastic Tardis like accommodation and very good seakeeping. The Broom 37 (that is 37 not 37 Continental) is a proper offshore cruising boat and given the choice, I think I'd take one over the T36. Brooms of that era, indeed Brooms of any era, were built like brick outhouses and for that reason, a B37 would probably have resisted the ravages of time better than a T36. I also very much like the 'aft command' position which is very sheltered compared to the flybridge helm position of the T36; in fact its so sheltered that Broom mostly didnt fit an interior helm which makes space inside for not only a big saloon but something the T36 doesnt have which is a separate dining area across from the galley. The Broom is also a very practical boat with wide and safe sidedecks and very docile marina manouvering due to its low profile and vestigial keel. Its not a bad seaboat either although its slightly tender in a big following sea because of that keel.

The one boat that hasnt been commented on and which is probably the best boat of the lot youve mentioned is the Princess 45. This was the boat that really put Princess on the map because it had a great hull and when matched to the Cat 3208 engines, plenty of performance. Its also a significantly bigger boat than the others youve mentioned with 3 cabins (or 2 + dinette) and a crew cabin on many boats. I also owned a Princess 470 which was the update of the 45 and it really was a significantly bigger boat than the T36 or B37 and you felt that both in the marina and at sea. If the Princess 45 was produced today it would be badged a 50 footer

So all things being equal and on the basis that for a live aboard boat you need as much space as possible, I'd be looking for a pristine P45 with Cat engines but thats entirely IMHO
 
Hi
I can certainly vouch for the 385. An incredible boat with the 306hp engines.
Should you be interested, my parents are about to advertise theirs. It's just not viable at their age anymore.
I'd be 100% certain it would be the best example around. Engines and beautiful, been lifted out every year for winter and spent half its life in fresh water only and the other berthed in fresh water river, so always effectively flushed through. Add to this a service file that would take you a lifetime to peruse..
An incredibly capable boat with solid seakeeping. She will cruise fairly economically at around 10-12 knots and push into nearly 30 opened up.
Should you want more details, I could put you in touch
 
Robin said:
We love the Dart but I'm alcohol free these days, SWMBO's rules after my stroke 5years back. But even a lemonade on your lovely Defever would be an honour!:encouragement:
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Ah, lemonade, give me a few days to discover where this strange drink may be purchased....:encouragement:
 
QBhoy said:
Hi
I can certainly vouch for the 385. An incredible boat with the 306hp engines.
Should you be interested, my parents are about to advertise theirs. It's just not viable at their age anymore.
I'd be 100% certain it would be the best example around. Engines and beautiful, been lifted out every year for winter and spent half its life in fresh water only and the other berthed in fresh water river, so always effectively flushed through. Add to this a service file that would take you a lifetime to peruse..
An incredibly capable boat with solid seakeeping. She will cruise fairly economically at around 10-12 knots and push into nearly 30 opened up.
Should you want more details, I could put you in touch
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I don't suppose she is called Mary Winsome ?
 
Hi Volvo Paul...
No, she is called "Margaret B" resides on the west coast of Scotland.
Love the sound of her with the slightly above water integrated into the hull straight exhausts. Lovely noise.
 
Another boat not yet mentioned is the Aquastar 38, which should also perhaps be on your possibility list.

Elecglitch of this parish has one and it is superb, again semi aft fly layout with decent aft cabin and lots of storage space.
 
superheat6k said:
Another boat not yet mentioned is the Aquastar 38, which should also perhaps be on your possibility list.

Elecglitch of this parish has one and it is superb, again semi aft fly layout with decent aft cabin and lots of storage space.
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the ones seen (online) so far are above our pay grade sadly, unless SWMBO can find a street to work.:disgust:
 
longjohnsilver said:
Ah, lemonade, give me a few days to discover where this strange drink may be purchased....:encouragement:
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I used to make up Robinson's orange or lemon Wibledon specials plus Tesco's diet fizzy water, cannot buy the orange/lemon over here in la la land so get a flavoured fizzy water concoction with zero everything nasty. One has to try.:p
 
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QBhoy said:
Hi
I can certainly vouch for the 385. An incredible boat with the 306hp engines.
Should you be interested, my parents are about to advertise theirs. It's just not viable at their age anymore.
I'd be 100% certain it would be the best example around. Engines and beautiful, been lifted out every year for winter and spent half its life in fresh water only and the other berthed in fresh water river, so always effectively flushed through. Add to this a service file that would take you a lifetime to peruse..
An incredibly capable boat with solid seakeeping. She will cruise fairly economically at around 10-12 knots and push into nearly 30 opened up.
Should you want more details, I could put you in touch
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That might be mutually useful since presently we are still in the land of Mickey (Mouse) and Donald (Duck/Trump) until we get buyers actually signed up for our condo. West coast Scotland is a long way from an intended south coast home mind for viewing and delivery but not unsurmountable.
 
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I've owned a Turbo 36, Broom 37 and FWIW a Princess 435/470 as well. I think others have said enough on the T36. Its a great boat with fantastic Tardis like accommodation and very good seakeeping. The Broom 37 (that is 37 not 37 Continental) is a proper offshore cruising boat and given the choice, I think I'd take one over the T36. Brooms of that era, indeed Brooms of any era, were built like brick outhouses and for that reason, a B37 would probably have resisted the ravages of time better than a T36. I also very much like the 'aft command' position which is very sheltered compared to the flybridge helm position of the T36; in fact its so sheltered that Broom mostly didnt fit an interior helm which makes space inside for not only a big saloon but something the T36 doesnt have which is a separate dining area across from the galley. The Broom is also a very practical boat with wide and safe sidedecks and very docile marina manouvering due to its low profile and vestigial keel. Its not a bad seaboat either although its slightly tender in a big following sea because of that keel.

The one boat that hasnt been commented on and which is probably the best boat of the lot youve mentioned is the Princess 45. This was the boat that really put Princess on the map because it had a great hull and when matched to the Cat 3208 engines, plenty of performance. Its also a significantly bigger boat than the others youve mentioned with 3 cabins (or 2 + dinette) and a crew cabin on many boats. I also owned a Princess 470 which was the update of the 45 and it really was a significantly bigger boat than the T36 or B37 and you felt that both in the marina and at sea. If the Princess 45 was produced today it would be badged a 50 footer

So all things being equal and on the basis that for a live aboard boat you need as much space as possible, I'd be looking for a pristine P45 with Cat engines but thats entirely IMHO
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There is/was a nice interior P45 in the Solent area, but I have lost the link and not sure what engines it has and they are not shown in the pictures I downloaded. Our budget means it was probably an older one or I wouldn't have looked at it. At 45ft too the annual mooring costs are also higher than for 37-40ft .

ANY thoughts on this Broom?
http://essex.boatshed.com/broom_crown_37-boat-214304.html
 
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