Another broker thread

[steveeasy]

Saw a boat last week I am very interested in. So far I’ve sent the broker 8 emails asking if I can arrange a viewing. I’ve asked 2 questions in or out of water and not any response at all.
He has though anoyingly called me three times thinking I’m another interested person. On each occasion then offers me no time to speak.
Just can’t be bothered to respond to my emails even when I’ve offered to purchase without viewing.
So no I’m not thinking he’s acting in sellers best interests.
Steveeasy

 

[Irish Rover]

Some brokers I've come across are absolute wasters. If you're serious about buying without viewing why not send a written offer via email subject to survey. I think he would be obliged to communicate your offer to the seller. He may have another buyer on the hook and wants to close the deal fast without complications- such as a higher offer from you which he'd have to tell the seller about.

 

[steveeasy]

I’m not bothered about a survey. Thing is he keeps calling me thinking I’m another interested party. When I ask him if I can view he has no time. He won’t sell without viewing the boat.have emailed to view any day no response.

When I sell things I’ll respond to every interested party. You never know or can tell who is going to part with the cash.

Steveeasy

 

[jbweston]

I don't know why he's being useless. But often an offer to purchase without viewing is made as the opening shot of the type of scam where the scammer makes a fake overpayment and gets the seller to make a refund with real money. So it could be that raised a warning flag with him.

 

[Irish Rover]

I’m not bothered about a survey. Thing is he keeps calling me thinking I’m another interested party. When I ask him if I can view he has no time. He won’t sell without viewing the boat.have emailed to view any day no response.

When I sell things I’ll respond to every interested party. You never know or can tell who is going to part with the cash.

Steveeasy

If the boat is anywhere close to you go ask around the marina. Someone may know the owner and put you in touch. If the broker lists himself as being a member of a professional organisation call or email them. It may embarrass him into action.

 

[ylop]

Saw a boat last week I am very interested in. So far I’ve sent the broker 8 emails asking if I can arrange a viewing. I’ve asked 2 questions in or out of water and not any response at all.
He has though anoyingly called me three times thinking I’m another interested person. On each occasion then offers me no time to speak.
Just can’t be bothered to respond to my emails even when I’ve offered to purchase without viewing.
So no I’m not thinking he’s acting in sellers best interests.
Steveeasy

I’m not bothered about a survey. Thing is he keeps calling me thinking I’m another interested party. When I ask him if I can view he has no time. He won’t sell without viewing the boat.have emailed to view any day no response.

When I sell things I’ll respond to every interested party. You never know or can tell who is going to part with the cash.

Steveeasy

I’ll be blunt, if your emails are as clear as your posts you are making no sense, probably triggered his scam or timewaster intuition. You now know he likes to use the phone (a good way to filter scammers and dreamers). So why not call him up, don’t mention your emails and just talk to him? If close enough to risk a wasted trip - popping in is also much harder to ignore.

 

[steveeasy]

I’ll be blunt, if your emails are as clear as your posts you are making no sense, probably triggered his scam or timewaster intuition. You now know he likes to use the phone (a good way to filter scammers and dreamers). So why not call him up, don’t mention your emails and just talk to him? If close enough to risk a wasted trip - popping in is also much harder to

Yes you were. I’m sorry I’m not able to express my views clearly enough for you.
250 miles away. So far I’ve suggested 5 days. No reply.

That is enough for me. Ever wonder why the boats don’t sell.

 

[Irish Rover]

I’ll be blunt, if your emails are as clear as your posts you are making no sense, probably triggered his scam or timewaster intuition. You now know he likes to use the phone (a good way to filter scammers and dreamers). So why not call him up, don’t mention your emails and just talk to him? If close enough to risk a wasted trip - popping in is also much harder to ignore.

Has someone played around with your algorithm? I see absolutely nothing wrong with the OP's contributions. They're absolutely clear to me. What is it you don't understand?

 

[steveeasy]

He knows my grammar is not great and chooses to turn it in to another issue.
I’ve messaged the broker. Been blunt but polite. No reply.

That’s it. I’ll just have to keep hold of my money. In a few days or weeks time the broker will call back and I’ll put him straight. Nice boat though just what I was after.
Steveeasy

 

[Tranona]

Your thread title does rather suggest that (as in the past) you do seem to have problems dealing with brokers so maybe ylop does have a point.

 

[Irish Rover]

Your thread title does rather suggest that (as in the past) you do seem to have problems dealing with brokers so maybe ylop does have a point.

Ylop's point is that the OP was "making no sense". I had no difficulty understanding his posts. If he's had prior issues with brokers he's not alone.

 

[Tranona]

Ylop's point is that the OP was "making no sense". I had no difficulty understanding his posts. If he's had prior issues with brokers he's not alone.

I have no problem in reading what he says, rather the difficulty is in understanding what is happening. For example if he has had 8 email exchanges and 3 telephone conversations, why has he not been able to communicate clearly what he wants to do? Maybe a direct call to the broker will sort it out.

 

[Irish Rover]

I have no problem in reading what he says, rather the difficulty is in understanding what is happening. For example if he has had 8 email exchanges and 3 telephone conversations, why has he not been able to communicate clearly what he wants to do? Maybe a direct call to the broker will sort it out.

I'm not sure the OP was asking for advice, as such. He was venting, as we all do from time to time and he doesn't need to dot the i's to do that.

 

[steveeasy]

I have no problem in reading what he says, rather the difficulty is in understanding what is happening. For example if he has had 8 email exchanges and 3 telephone conversations, why has he not been able to communicate clearly what he wants to do? Maybe a direct call to the broker will sort it out.

8 emails and no responses.

Been called 3 times. Each time he thinks he’s calling another potential buyer.

I recall you’ve been on the receiving end from blunt posters. Perhaps they had a point too. I don’t tend to think it’s a road to go down though. Not very nice but perhaps you don’t mind.

A good salesman should really be open minded as you never can foresee who is genuine or not. It’s also polite to respond to enquiries.
I’d planned my weekend to view this boat and he could easily have told me he could not accommodate any viewings over the whole weekend as well as the previous week.
Must be a very hard life being a boat broker. Bloody lazy if you were to ask me.
Steveeasy

 

[wallacebob]

Offering to buy unseen will ring very loud alarm bells in any brokers ears. My last car purchase, I thought the dealer was messing me about. When we eventually met, he explained that deposits or purchases unseen are not done now: distance selling legislation puts dealers in difficult position. He gets AI emails all the time, plus many time wasters , and doesn’t trust anyone he can’t shake hands with.

 

[steveeasy]

Offering to buy unseen will ring very loud alarm bells in any brokers ears. My last car purchase, I thought the dealer was messing me about. When we eventually met, he explained that deposits or purchases unseen are not done now: distance selling legislation puts dealers in difficult position. He gets AI emails all the time, plus many time wasters , and doesn’t trust anyone he can’t shake hands with.

Well not ideal but if you can’t view and you WANT the boat needs must.

Tyre kickers, time wasters, it’s a matter of opinion. They are all interested in the product advertised. One should tread carefully weeding out the Chaff.

Steveeasy

 

[pretzel_logic]

He knows my grammar is not great and chooses to turn it in to another issue.
I’ve messaged the broker. Been blunt but polite. No reply.

That’s it. I’ll just have to keep hold of my money. In a few days or weeks time the broker will call back and I’ll put him straight. Nice boat though just what I was after.
Steveeasy

Just to explain things from an 'anti-scammer' point of view. Most people know that a lot of emails/communications from scammers often contain poor spelling and grammar (and I should add that this is nothing to do with their nationality/command of the English language - it's deliberate so as to act as a filtering device) so if one in is seen in a similar vein then it's more likely not to be acted upon.

Absolutely no reflection on any grammar inconsistencies that an innocent prospective purchaser has, but it may explain the lack of contact perhaps.

 

[Tranona]

8 emails and no responses.

Been called 3 times. Each time he thinks he’s calling another potential buyer.

I recall you’ve been on the receiving end from blunt posters. Perhaps they had a point too. I don’t tend to think it’s a road to go down though. Not very nice but perhaps you don’t mind.

A good salesman should really be open minded as you never can foresee who is genuine or not. It’s also polite to respond to enquiries.
I’d planned my weekend to view this boat and he could easily have told me he could not accommodate any viewings over the whole weekend as well as the previous week.
Must be a very hard life being a boat broker. Bloody lazy if you were to ask me.
Steveeasy

Still don't understand why you continue to send emails when you get no response. Are they all the same or asking different questions? You have spoken to him on his calls to you but still seem unable to communicate what you want to do, or what you want from him. Why have you not phoned him?

There are always 2 sides to every story. We are only hearing your side. What was in the emails? were they all the same? maybe they did not arrive with him? maybe the content did not make sense to him so he ignored them? Who knows?

Not sure why you are airing this here anyway other than slagging off an unknown broker. Little anybody can do to help you progress this possible purchase other than advise you to speak directly to him (or her).

I suspect that maybe the other party interested in the boat is going forward with the purchase and the broker judges not worth pursuing your enquiry. Your last paragraph maybe says it all. Based on what you have written here I fail to see how you can say all that. At least good that you have not named the person on the other end.

 

[Irish Rover]

Just to explain things from an 'anti-scammer' point of view. Most people know that a lot of emails/communications from scammers often contain poor spelling and grammar (and I should add that this is nothing to do with their nationality/command of the English language - it's deliberate so as to act as a filtering device) so if one in is seen in a similar vein then it's more likely not to be acted upon.

Absolutely no reflection on any grammar inconsistencies that an innocent prospective purchaser has, but it may explain the lack of contact perhaps.

With all due respect I don't see how this is relevant here. The OP has sent numerous emails including his phone number. The broker has called him 3 times, so he knows the number is genuine, and a real person answers. If he suspects a scam all he has to do is schedule a viewing and ask the OP to bring along some proof of ID.

 

[Irish Rover]

Still don't understand why you continue to send emails when you get no response. Are they all the same or asking different questions? You have spoken to him on his calls to you but still seem unable to communicate what you want to do, or what you want from him. Why have you not phoned him?

There are always 2 sides to every story. We are only hearing your side. What was in the emails? were they all the same? maybe they did not arrive with him? maybe the content did not make sense to him so he ignored them? Who knows?

Not sure why you are airing this here anyway other than slagging off an unknown broker. Little anybody can do to help you progress this possible purchase other than advise you to speak directly to him (or her).

I suspect that maybe the other party interested in the boat is going forward with the purchase and the broker judges not worth pursuing your enquiry. Your last paragraph maybe says it all. Based on what you have written here I fail to see how you can say all that. At least good that you have not named the person on the other end.

I think I must be missing something here. The OP says he has sent numerous emails He suggested 5 different days for viewing but none appear to suit the broker and he hasn't suggested an alternative. The broker has called the OP three times by mistake (how incompetent is that?), and when the OP tries to engage him in conversation he says he doesn't have time. The broker doesn't call back or tell the OP when might be a convenient time. The OP messaged the broker and got no response.
There are maybe a half dozen posters, including your good self, that I keep a mental track of, and know their form. Others I may respond to their posts or even argue with them but I won't remember it after a few days if they post on another subject. I don't recall any other threads or issues with the OP. Maybe he has form which is influencing the tone of some of the responses. If not, I'm at a loss to know why he's getting hammered.