another bigoted sailor

True, WAFI is not a term of endearment. But, in most cases, I don't feel it comes with the mal-intent evident on some recent posts here. If it offends I will be as vocal about stopping it there as I am being here.

And WAFI is the abrievation for ???
 
Wind Assisted F%$*ing Idiot. Likely to be perceived with "mal-intent" when used with the F word.

I was rather hoping Elessar would answer that .
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I rest my case . Elessar
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Wind Assisted F%$*ing Idiot. Likely to be perceived with "mal-intent" when used with the F word.

Even without the F -word, branding a large number of people 'idiot' based on their choice of boat shows "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs." a bigot, if you will.

As you say, Elessar, it tends to be a forum phenomenom; I've not encountered the sail / motor divide in real life.
 
I'm pretty new to the forum and yet to get a boat but when I do it will have sails. I read both SB and Mobo threads with interest as I enjoy boats, whether the boat has sails or a stonking 1000hp on tap, be it 17' or 75' who cares? I for one do not.

My two favourite threads are the in-builds of Magnum and Match, both very different boats but boats they are.

What I find odd is the atmosphere that seems to exist between the forums even though we all share a love of the water and boats.

Seems like a load of BS to me.
 
I was rather hoping Elessar would answer that .
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I rest my case . Elessar
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OK then, I withdraw the comment about it being predominant in the saily forum.

Rest of the question still stands. And as I see you as one of the offenders I can be specific.
Why are you, and a few others so intolerant of others views on a boat forum when most of the boaters I meet are nice people?
Why do you like making comments that look to me like they are deliberately belittling others, when the only thing you know about them is the category of boat they prefer?
Are you this prejudiced in real life, or only when hiding behind a keyboard?
 
OK then, I withdraw the comment about it being predominant in the saily forum.

Rest of the question still stands. And as I see you as one of the offenders I can be specific.
Why are you, and a few others so intolerant of others views on a boat forum when most of the boaters I meet are nice people?
Why do you like making comments that look to me like they are deliberately belittling others, when the only thing you know about them is the category of boat they prefer?
Are you this prejudiced in real life, or only when hiding behind a keyboard?

I only read and reply to what you type .

And as I see you as one of the offenders I can be specific.
Why are you, and a few others so intolerant of others views on a boat forum when most of the boaters I meet are nice people?

It would appear that you are intolerant to others views . Please read your posts carefully before making a fool of yourself .I refuse to be drawn further into your petty squabble .
 
The only place I encounter the raggie/mobo divide is on the internet :p
In real life I seem to come across as many raggie arrogant twats as mobo ones, not that there are a great deal of either!
There are prats in all walks of life, a large majority seem to be behind the wheel of their cars ;)
 
It's not just mobos vs WAFIs. It is a strange phonomenon of the UK that people who 'do' one sport tend to distrust and distance themselves from people who 'do' another.

In the Maritime context, sailors look down on motorboaters, and everyone except their users hates PWCs (=Jetskis). There is no love lost between professional fishermen and amateur boaters of any description. Divers are suspicious of yachtsmen, motorboaters and anglers, and surfers wouldn't dream of drinking with any of them. Within the sailing community there are 'cruisers' and 'racers' with scarcely a good word to say about one another. The distinctions get finer: when I was long-distance cruising we hardly ever talked to charterers, considering ourselves far superior, and they in turn referred to us disparagingly as 'live-aboards'!

I would like to 'come out' and admit that I am: a) a yactsman with a yacht, with a love of cruising but who enjoys the occasional race, b) a diver, c) used to own a RIB, d) enjoy catching and eating fish. If I had ever been able to stand up on the thing I would love surfing. In Australia or the USA I would be quite normal, but in the UK it makes me a bit freaky.
 
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I can't understand any antipathy towards beautiful vessels like .....
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Surely anyone owning such a craft must have impeccable taste and charisma to m

Oh, I don't know. Not the prettiest mobo by any means, but by no means awful. Sits quite purposefully on the water, reasonably proportioned lines. Not bad. Not great, but not bad.

And it's not as though every example of a sailing boat is a picture of loveliness. Only it's mother could love something like this, IMHO.

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I know lots of sailors, and am one myself despite owning a mobo. Nice people, good fun, love boats, "hate" my mobo in a friendly way but will still join me on it.

Sometimes I meet sailors that are a little suspicious of me when I arrive in a mobo, but invariably we have a friendly chat about boats and realise we have more in common than differences.

Why then, when most sailors are nice people (as are most motor boaters) why is there a greater proportion of bigoted idiots on this forum, and by that i'm afraid I specifically mean the saily bit?

here's another for the list http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286067

ENVY!
 
My experience on the South Coast is there are WAFI's and they normally fall into one of the following catagories:

1) Have Sunsail Logos
2) Are racing towards to rear of the fleet and therefore "OWN" the Ocean

Now where do I find the emoticons....?

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I may be wrong about this, but I think the provenance of the WAFI acronym comes from the Merchant Navy and is used to denote the more obtuse kind of "I'm stand-on vessel/racing so get out of my way" yachtsman. The kind of person who charges in front of a Tanker in the Solent Area of Concern, for example.......

(No axe to grind about this - I both sail and mobo, with equal enjoyment)
 
In my case :-

I love boats of any type.
I can no longer afford the boat I would like.
Wind assisted floundering idiot - yes.
I have owned ,power boat , med sized sailing cruiser,jetski,small fishing boat, every one of them fulfilled a need at the time .
Powerboat - going like a bat out of hell ,what a rush !!:eek:
Med sized sailing cruiser, have to admit this was an ego thing and I had no idea what I was doing ( many years ago at middle age), complete disaster.
Jetski -- what a rush !! and cheaper by a long way than the powerboat.
Small fishing boat -- great for fishing but boring for any distance.
Current boat, small cruiser , it's all I can afford ! Cheap to run,cheap to moor (drying harbour) bits for it not too expensive, fun fun with no worries.

Now if I had the money I would have the best of both worlds and get a substantial motor sailor or Have one of each :eek:

Must admit I can get carried away on the forum re mobo's but put it down to jealousy as with the large sail boats ( a vivid green countenance :D ) but I have what I have and it does not threaten my bank account - but invite me on-board any of the above and I will "snatch yur and orf "
 
Ah - got it ! Some good posts in this thread ...

It's a tribal thing ....

It's a Celtic vs. Rangers; Veggies vs. Meateaters; Football vs. Rugby thing. It doesn't much matter exactly what the flag is that you fly - the important thing to take part in the game is that you fly one (it's a metaphorical flag, btw, just in case anyone has a 'thing' about flags - I know I do: hate the bloody objects, precisely because they are the epitome of 'them and us' thinking).

So - as someone has alreay pointed out - it's a tolerance thing: whether a salt-water sailor considers inland waterways as 'real boating' for example, or simple a version of caravanning ...

.. speaking of which: bl##dy caravans - holding up the traffic ... whinge ... moan ...
 
Why then, when most sailors are nice people (as are most motor boaters) why is there a greater proportion of bigoted idiots on this forum, and by that i'm afraid I specifically mean the saily bit?

here's another for the list http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286067

Ignore Sandyman. My main club is a mixed Mobo and Yottie club, and I always find the Mobo drivers amongst the most friendly even if the mentality of the two camps is as different as bikers and car nuts. As for sobbishness, what is there to be snobby about in a big Mobo - they are all ( Princesses etc) just a little bit chavvy in the way that a footballers Lambo is. :D Money not class to put it in old style British terms. And excluding the likes of the big Nelsons of course.

That said I was apalled when on board a big Mobo in the Solent to find that friendly waves to Yotties were largely ignored. Rude I call it.
 
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