Anderson 22 Updated?

[aquaplane]

Yeh, he has a bit of bigotry he trots out everytime someone is thinking about buying a trailer sailer.

Somat about slipways being too busy and no where to park a car and trailer. Then it's supposed to take half a day to rig the boat and by the time you have done that there is no tide so you have to pack up and go home with the other half of the day.

I have to say I don't recognise the scenario at all.

I think that keeping the costs down by keeping a boat on the drive must be more expensive than having a half tide mooring somewhere nice.

Of course if the forecast for the west coast is lousy and you could get a decent sail on the east coast if you went there that's not worth considering either.

I do like having a boat on a mooring where I can just turn up and sail, but it is nice to have the option of going somewhere else, even foreign.

 

[PeteCooper]

I think he's trying to persuade other people to buy them so that he can then inveigle them into the club he runs.

Pete

Judging by post 43 it would seem that the exact opposite is true - he seems to be trying to put people off joining the owners association

 

[TSB240]

Of course if the forecast for the west coast is lousy and you could get a decent sail on the east coast if you went there that's not worth considering either.

I do like having a boat on a mooring where I can just turn up and sail, but it is nice to have the option of going somewhere else, even foreign.

Combine these two and you have the perfect location for a Trailer Sailer.

Its called Anglesey! and its foreign as they mainly speak gibber there

Steve

 

[Seajet]

Trailer sailing

Unless you have a favourite slipway sorted which gets remarkably little use, my personal objections to it stand; expressing a view is not bigotry just because it doesn't suit you.

I have trailed a few Anderson 22's, both I and the people I was with each time reckoned it a big heavy boat to trail regularly.

TSB240,

as for that stern with all the junk on it, rest assured I won't be looking at it for long, I'm sure the boat looks spiffing head-on from in front.

I still haven't learned how one loses fingers in an outboard well, and no problem with fumes, it's a Mariner not a Seagull !

 

[TSB240]

QED

As an A22 owner I agree the well works well BUT in high seas my experience is putting the engine in the well - and it was a little Yamaha Malta which is relatively light - is difficult and possibly dangerous - so yes TSB240 I would agree your pinkies are at risk.
John

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record.......

Malta 17kgs dead weight.

Multiply by potential velocity due to unexpected motion.

Potential trap point between cockpit locker edge and aft handle as lifted out.

Incidental risk of open cockpit locker flooding as the lid will have to be tied open whilst lifting OB. (In these sort of conditions I should be harnessed on a short tether and have the washboards latched down.)

I have a 27 kilo Tohatsu

= nearly double the potential impact force on my pinkies.

Quite Easily Done.

 

[Seajet]

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record.......

Malta 17kgs dead weight.

Multiply by potential velocity due to unexpected motion.

Potential trap point between cockpit locker edge and aft handle as lifted out.

Incidental risk of open cockpit locker flooding as the lid will have to be tied open whilst lifting OB. (In these sort of conditions I should be harnessed on a short tether and have the washboards latched down.)

I have a 27 kilo Tohatsu

= nearly double the potential impact force on my pinkies.

Quite Easily Done.

TSB240,

thanks for clarifying - sort of.

I still don't understand why fingers etc should be near in the engine in / out of well process, seeing as engine handles are well above the clamps.

As for hatch lids, on the standard A22 these are loose things easy to put to one side, on my boat I fitted hinged flat stainless plates which avoids the snag of keeping the lids secure but out of the way.

As for flooding when the fuel compartment next to the well ( the biggest cockpit drain in the world ) is open, good point.

I and a lot of other A22 owners have glassed in mini bulkheads to keep that area small, we also fit auto fire extinguishers ( and a ventilator ) above the fuel tank, also a petrol fire extinguisher handy at the bridgedeck, everything should be handy without putting the user at risk - though I freely admit by that time I'd be busy inflating the dinghy or more likely swimming.

 

[TSB240]

I still don't understand why fingers etc should be near in the engine in / out of well process, seeing as engine handles are well above the clamps.

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Sorry I had finger trouble

I was using my smart phone trouble is the operator isnt

Missed a copy and paste in my post.I have now lost the willl to live

Will post a picture when I get it all set up for you before launching next year.

I can visualise

Engine on slide mount on centre line....

Protected by twin rudders on each side....

Will suit the nice big wide ass that Ed Dubois blessed the Starflash with.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

Which wonka posted a stupidly wide picture on this thread so that half of all the posts disappear off the edge of the screen then?

 

[Alltnaha]

Exactly TSB240.

For anyone still unconvinced my Anderson was bucking all over the place. One of us had to get the Malta off the pad on the pushpit and into the well ( I am glad it was not in one of the cockpit lockers due to the wave size and the risk of taking in too much of the grey /green stuff ).

So it was possible that my mate could have fallen and fingers could be trapped in various places due to holding the Malta - not just under the clamps.

I have broken two fingers over the years sailing in rough conditions and it is not pleasant. Andy will no doubt say that is due to my inability to understand the design concept of the A22 , my lack of common sense and poor seamanship.........

John

 

[Keith 66]

Dunno about too small for family bunks, we 3 - fiancee & self ( both 5'9" ) up front, chum in the saloon - spent 3 weeks going from Chichester to Jersey then around the West Country no problem.

She'd run rings around a Sabre 27 for fun or on the way home to a safe harbour, chum !

Of course that was when we had summers...

Sorry Andy 3 people & a dog on an A22 is not what i call fun, after the barbecue the dog got wind & we slept with the hatches open. You must have very good friends.
As for the Sabre we sail a fin keeler that i have rebuilt completely as i did our Anderson.
Both boats are well regarded as fine seaboats regardless of keel configuration. I liked the A22 but we out grew her. The Sabre (fin keel) is for us the next step up. A different animal indeed from her bilge keeled sisters.
Another interesting thing is that the Sabre has an excellent thriving Class association that gives superb support & advice to its members and is run on proper democratic lines with an elected Committee. Though your association gives great support it appears to run as a one man band that serves your world view only.