anchors on deck/bow rollers

[stamfordian]

I would like to keep my Anchor on deck,does anybody know of a system to do this ie deck protecters etc or mounting brackets???.

Second question....I ve not had any experience with bow rollers,in princple i know how they work,but but do you have to keep chain etc in the bow to come through a chain guide then over the roller or does the chain/warp go under the roller.I am gett ing this round my neck/forums/images/icons/frown.gif.Just tell me how they work!!!/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[oldsaltoz]

G'day Trevor,

"Most" anchors are held hard up to the roller by the chain, pulled over the anchor winch: "some" also have a capture pin to prevent the anchor dropping if/when the chain goes slack. others have a short strop attached with an eye spliced in the end to go over the winch or a cleat, or a chain claw.

The chain is fed up from the chain locker located under the winch.

Very few anchors are stored on deck (Not on the roller) as they are a hazard for sheets, toes and make a mess.

Hope this helps

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[ccscott49]

Chain/warp goes over the roller. If you have a CQR or copy, there is a set of mounting blocks available for mounting on deck, other types will need them fabricating. The most elegant way of mounting the anchor (IMHO) is to have it fixed to the bow roller, as oldsaltoz says, with a pin or strop, it keeps it out of the way.

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[Evadne]

I keep my anchor on deck. It was there when I bought her and I've yet to think of a better place. It is tied down on CQR shaped chocks just in front of the forehatch (i.e. coachroof) and the chain is laid around it and lashed down. I use 3-4 ties and it has yet to work loose.
It is possible to untie it and deploy it in a few minutes, as long as you leave the bitter end permanently shackled to something solid to prevent permanent deployment.
My sheets are too high to catch on it, although it can be a trip hazard in harbour, mostly for returning drunken neighbours. We haven't had any unexpected visitors through the forehatch yet, though, and to be honest our whole foredeck is a trip hazard of cleats, sheets, sails tied to the guardrails etc. in harbour.
The main advantages are that it is out of the way, of both the working area and the accomodation; it is less of a danger to other boats in close quarters marina maneuvering and it puts the weight nearer the centre (reduces pitching moment).
Hope that helps, but whatever works best for you will depend on your boat, so feel free to experiment a bit.

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[Gordonmc]

My 35lb CQR lives on deck as there is no locker... the chain disappears down a pipe next to the windlass. It gets tied to its cradle points with cord which can be cut quickly in an emergency.

A greater problem is my 40lb fisherman's. I am toying with the idea of building chocks out of mahogany and having the thing upright lashed to the pullpit. Has anyone solved the problem of storing a fisherman's on deck?

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[hylas]

never keep your anchor on the deck.. In emergency, you must be able to launch it as fast as possible..

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[Mirelle]

Fisherman on deck

Here are three methods of stowing a Fisherman, two of which are on deck...

The one which is not on deck is "Brightingsea Fashion", much written about by Maurice Griffiths. Bring the anchor up to the roller, then catch one of the flukes with a loop of small rope and bring that to the rail and belay it there. Still used aboard Thames Barges. This is the Fisherman equivalent of stowing a CQR in the bow roller!

The common or garden method is to unstock it and lash it flat on chocks (teak preferable to mahogany, though, as the varnish soon gets knocked off and teak does not go black with the weather.

The really clever method is recommended by FB Cooke - stow the anchor, stocked, just ahead of the shrouds with the crown, vertical, projecting just over the rail, and the stock flat on the deck in a couple of chocks. This keeps the weight of the anchor out of the bows, and leaves it ready for immediate use - do remember not to trip over it in the dark, though! I used this method for 12 years and was very happy with it.

A big boat can have cat heads like HMS Victory....



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[Mirelle]

I agree

In the 19 years that I have owned her, Mirelle's bower anchor, a CQR, has put on 10lbs (which is less than its owner has managed!) and migrated from chocks on deck, to bow roller, to chocks on deck again.

It now lives on the starboard side of the forehatch, whilst the kedge, a 35lb CQR which used to be the bower, lives on the port side.

There are good and bad points in both systems, but on balance I prefer having the bow roller un-encumbered by an anchor. The anchor's weight is better a little further aft, and there is very little time saved by having it in the roller, assuming the anchor is light enough to manhandle, which it is.

My preferred method of having the anchor ready to let go is not to hang it in the roller, but to drop it over the side and belay it with a slip knot on the rail, just clear of the water, using the short length of rope, shackled to the eye of the crown, which Professor Taylor, who invented the CQR, recommended, feed the chain through the roller, then knock the windlass brake off and free the slip knot at the critical moment. This way, it hangs clear of the side and does not knock chips out of the topsides, and the extra weight of a bight of chain helps to pull the rest of the chain out more definitely.

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[tynesman]

Many of the replies are interesting,However if you use the boat in tidal areas and regulary offshore you want the anchor on deck as near to the bow as possible,the anchor is also a safety item you do not want to go looking for it if your engine fails with rocks at 100m away.
I keep my "Danforth" anchor on deck by the side of the forward hatch, its held down on three deck anchore supports and will not come out as the shank is held in by a locking pin.
You do not want to be offshore carring an anchor on deck or you will be the next one overboard!
Using the anchor often I do not want to go looking for it or carrying it very far.
Yes I use a bow roller,if you have not got a winch like me the bow roller is a god- send to pull the chain over.
Also usefull are anchor chain markers,you can be sure of how much you are putting out and know when it is clearing the water when your bring it back in to prevent bashing it against the hull.

Happy sailing

Tynesman

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