Anchor chain in Greece

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The windlass has been installed and I have now asked the chandlery in Preveza for a quote for 8 mm anchor chain. Do you want Greek or Italian quality they asked. What about Dutch or British? but that does not seem to be an option. So, can somebody tell me their experiences with Greek or Italian quality anchor chain. By the way, what is the weight of 60 meters 8 mm chain?

Youp
 
Dutch? Maybe some but I don't know any. British? None made in Britain in small sizes except possibly Griff Chains but they don't seem to want to be tested. Greek, no idea. Italian almost certainly Maggi, pretty good quality but not certain about their galvanising quality. These days the best is probably Chinese, although it may be that they also produce some of the worst. UK imported from China is batch tested and very good quality.

Weight of 8 mm chain is 1.45 kg/m.

See my chain page under Anchoring for some more information.
 
Just be very careful of what you order. I know of a load of horror stories about the galv quality from different countries. I would go for Italian imho. Chinese can be hit and miss with galv quality, especially when orderering within Greece. Just make sure you have a good come back with whom you order. The chain strength l can't answer on. That's one for Vyv
 
keninmed said:
CYS have just quoted me E7.84 pm (inc Vat) for VG10 10mm calibrated ISO10 chain. Does anyone know what the VG and ISO10 signify?
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No, I have not come across either designation before in this context. Care is needed with 10 mm anchor chain, as the DIN and ISO sizes differ and will not fit the alternative windlass gypsy. Dimensions are on my website under Anchoring. Suggest you measure the old chain before buying.
 
If you can find a Rocna (as in anchor) distributor they might be able to get you CMP aka Titan chain. Alternatively get onto the Titan website and send them an email. They make all the right sizes, metric, DIN and ISO. It does come from China. I've only tested one length but is similar to Vyv's good Chinese chain, i.e. their G30 is near G40 strength. Galvanising seems satisfactory but if you find some I'd do Vyv's DIY test and then check the gal for flaking when you twist to an 'S'. Maggi, as far as I know, only make G40 (and G70) but cannot see why you would need to pay for G40 as G30 is good enough. I agree with Vyv - Maggi gal can be variable - but you might not get good gal anywhere - gal quality seems a bit of a lottery.

Another alternative are Peerless in America, they have just introduced metric chain and have stock, as of Nov last year, in Germany and maybe by now, other locations email International@peerlesschain.com Their chain is of good quality and good gal.

You need to get it delivered, you cannot lift 60m of 8mm!

Jonathan
 
In 2013, I sourced a length of 8mm chain from a long established marine wholesaler. He assured me it was 'best quality Italian chain' as they would never sell any of that 'Chinese ****'.

Out of interest I tested a few links (as per Vyv Cox Engineering), and the weld on every link failed with the lightest tap of an ordinary hammer. I was anable to get it to bend to any amount before failure. The welds seemed to be fully formed but there was absolutely no strength in the weld.

The seller refunded the money but wasn't particularly bothered by the revelations. He said it was 'fully tested' and I assume there's now thousands of metres of this stuff on boats throughout the SW.

In contrast, the manky old 10mm chain that was being replaced, remained intact whilst bent to the full 90° while welly-ing it with a small sledge hammer.

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Maggi, CMP and Peerless chain are embossed with very simple but unique marks. Sadly neither good nor bad Chinese chain is marked.

TimBennet's post indicates the value of Vyv's tests :)

But Tim, given what you found - where did you get your replacement chain?

Jonathan
 
Tim, pleased to see that you found the test so useful. The poor tensile test results that prompted me to develop the test looked very similar to yours, as shown on the website. It appears that the weld has barely been made at all, suggesting serious QC problems during manufacture, I assume poor electrical control.
 
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