flaming
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I see it as more Ratcliffe having fallen out with Athena, now needing to make it Ben’s fault that the UK cannot have 2 teams.
Americas Cup - INEOS Britannia splits from Ben Ainslie
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Minerva
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I read the yachting world Article - does seem Ratcliffe has had a bit of a tantrum as he’s not got is way.
bedouin
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What was the disagreement about?
Minerva
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bedouin
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That leaves me none the wiser. Presumably there must have been some significant point of disagreement between them
Chiara’s slave
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Could it be the Squadron? But then, faced with a choice between Ineos and Athena, ie Ben, Dylan and the lads, which would you pick to be challenger? Money may well be easier to find than that sort of talent and experience.
benjenbav
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I’m imagining something like the scene in Pulp Fiction where Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel) is barking out orders to Vincent (John Travolta) and Jules (Samuel L Jackson).
Vincent says, “a please would be nice”.
Wolf turns on them, explaining that he’s there to tell them what to do to get out of the difficult situation they’ve got themselves into and concludes:
“I’m here to help. If my help’s not appreciated, lotsa luck gentlemen.”
Chiara’s slave
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I’m not, and never will be or could be a member, but I know quite a few, some of them quite well. Quite driven people, very often.
flaming
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This seems to be the big unknown. Or more accurately, those that know aren’t saying.
that said… Ratcliffe’s insistence that he would continue with a challenge after the split with Athena, and after the Squadron confirmed that Athena were their challenger, never really made any sense to me. So I’m still putting it as “Ratcliffe needs someone to blame, can’t just go quietly”.
What is becoming more concerning is the amount of time that has lapsed since the split with INEOS without a title sponsor announcement from Athena.
Allan
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Radcliffe has a history of blaming everyone else, look at his failed efforts at Manchester United.
I'm not surprised about the lack of sponsor, there's still plenty of time to go and who would want to put their name into the mess that's been created here? If they are lined up, keeping a low profile until Radcliffe is gone and Athena racing is a blank canvas seems sensible to me. A few test sails off Portsmouth with big blank sails to separate the old (negative) from the new (forward looking, positive). Even better if there is a positive environmental aspect after the toxic chemical, fracking, gas guzzling and uncaring impression seen previously.
Allan
At some point it was said that Radcliffe wanted to take charge of the whole team/company but Ainsley said no.
Radcliffe has a history of blaming everyone else, look at his failed efforts at Manchester United.
I'm not surprised about the lack of sponsor, there's still plenty of time to go and who would want to put their name into the mess that's been created here? If they are lined up, keeping a low profile until Radcliffe is gone and Athena racing is a blank canvas seems sensible to me. A few test sails off Portsmouth with big blank sails to separate the old (negative) from the new (forward looking, positive). Even better if there is a positive environmental aspect after the toxic chemical, fracking, gas guzzling and uncaring impression seen previously.
Allan
MikeBz
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Perhaps bigger news - Peter Burling has parted with TNZ!
oldbloke
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By chauffeurs mostly
bedouin
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There's really not much competition. The only chance of GB being competitive is with the team that Ben has put together - but Radcliffe does also bring something in the shape of engineering expertise from Mercedes F1
But without a mega-rich backer it is hard to see GB being competitive next time around
SaltIre
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btw this is Radcliffe:
Our discussion is about Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
Our discussion is about Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
Chiara’s slave
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Though he might bring something new to the AC campaign!
MikeBz
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You never see them both in the same room at the same time…
SaltIre
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Radcliffe will be there, wearing his invisibility cloak.
Laser310
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what happens if the "challenger of record" does not mount a challenge?
I guess they will need to find a new challenger of record.
I guess they will need to find a new challenger of record.
xcw
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I see Ineos Britannia is ashore in Cowes (just past the floating bridge). Is this the actual AC boat or the 45ft use for the lead up series? I couldn't quite see.