Am I ready for the ICC Assessment?

[jms28]

Hi there,

I want to apply for an ICC in order to be able to legally operate our 40" motor yacht in Greece this summer. I don't hold any such qualification, yet spent almost every summer in the past 20 years on the boat. I certainly lack some proper theoretical knowledge, but obtained some practical experience from my father over the years.

Of course it's hard to tell from afar/ in general, but I'd like to get some opinions on how comprehensive the whole procedure is and how realistic it is, that I will successfully obtain the certificate (with some theoretical brush-up)?

What does an assessment typically cost and how long does it take?

Many thanks!

 

[petem]

All I can do is advise what i did this summer in the UK. We were in between boats for 16 years so were pretty rusty to say the least. I had a day's own boat training combined with ICC assessment with a RYA school in the UK. The theory was quite light so as long as you know the basics you'll be fine. You do need to know your col regs, lights, shapes, buoys etc and be able to read a chart. Remember that RYA sea schools are really there to encourage and to help people pass, not try and catch them out. I bought this book to learn the syllabus http://www.rya.org.uk/shop/pages/products.aspx?product=rya-icc-handbook.

This is the form that they use for the assessment http://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/cruising/Web Documents/Boating Abroad/ICC Form.pdf.

I can't remember what the day cost, £200 or so (own boat). My wife was on board too so she picked up some good tips (like how to drive the boat to recover a MOB).

 

[lenten]

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[vodzurk]

Got mine thru RYA Powerboat Lvl2 (2 day course @ about £300), then RYA membership application had a box to tick for free ICC registration.

Probably not the best option for yourself though, given petem's response above being cheaper, and you already being clued up .

 

[julians]

Id imagine you'd be fine to pass an ICC, I was like you , I had 10 years or so experience messing around with boats in mallorca,but no formal training, so I just paid for a day with an RYA school in north wales to sit the theory test, and do the practical in their boat.

It was 20 years ago when I did the ICC, so I cant remember what it cost, but I think it was about £100 for the day.

 

[rafiki_]

You will need an ICC that covers you for boats above 10m for your 40' boat. The PB2 course will cover for boats up to 10m.

I did the ICC for sail and power last summer, ahead of a flotilla holiday in the Ionians. As a mobo owner for many seasons, having discussed the event with the company I did the session with, we felt no training required. However, I felt very undercooked on the day, and found both the theory and practical (on a 41'yacht) quite taxing. My copy of the ICC handbook was a couple of years out of date, and some of the buoyage and markings had changed. I got my ICC, but if I was doing this from scratch again, I would go for a half day brush-up before the test, to ensure I had a less stressful day.

Bacchus down at Haslar were fantastic, and would recommend them for sailing an mobo training. I think the cost was about £150, but we get discount being Dean and Reddyhoff berthers.

 

[Newbroom]

Got mine thru RYA Powerboat Lvl2 (2 day course @ about £300), then RYA membership application had a box to tick for free ICC registration.

Probably not the best option for yourself though, given petem's response above being cheaper, and you already being clued up .

Which its ICC will only cover you in boats up to 10 metres

 

[jrudge]

You will need an ICC that covers you for boats above 10m for your 40' boat. The PB2 course will cover for boats up to 10m.

I did the ICC for sail and power last summer, ahead of a flotilla holiday in the Ionians. As a mobo owner for many seasons, having discussed the event with the company I did the session with, we felt no training required. However, I felt very undercooked on the day, and found both the theory and practical (on a 41'yacht) quite taxing. My copy of the ICC handbook was a couple of years out of date, and some of the buoyage and markings had changed. I got my ICC, but if I was doing this from scratch again, I would go for a half day brush-up before the test, to ensure I had a less stressful day.

Bacchus down at Haslar were fantastic, and would recommend them for sailing an mobo training. I think the cost was about £150, but we get discount being Dean and Reddyhoff berthers.

The ICC now seems a mess.

When I did it It gave 24meters, and now 10m.

This is fine in itself, but the changes seem to cause confusion and how you upgrade on to another is unclear.

I have just had my renewal for through after 5 years ( I keep it current inches some Spanish official wants a licence). You now have to provide proof of address which seems OTT

As an aside can you just take the assessment as opposed to the course?

 

[Tranona]

As an aside can you just take the assessment as opposed to the course?

There isn't a course as such. You can take just the assessment or do what is suggested above and have a refresher followed by the assessment.

 

[derekbland]

I am doing the theory and if I manage to buy the boat we have had an offer excepted on then we will get the practical as own boat training and will include moving it. Difference is I don't have your experience.

I have a local guy that is giving me 1-2-1 training on the theory. He charges £300 for 30 hours but as I already now quite a few of the basics I have cut this down to around 20.

Most important point is that if you do your Day Skipper Assessment then you can get the ICC anyhow.

 

[rafiki_]

The ICC now seems a mess.

When I did it It gave 24meters, and now 10m.

This is fine in itself, but the changes seem to cause confusion and how you upgrade on to another is unclear.

I have just had my renewal for through after 5 years ( I keep it current inches some Spanish official wants a licence). You now have to provide proof of address which seems OTT

As an aside can you just take the assessment as opposed to the course?

Jeremy, I did just the assessment. I needed a sailing ICC to charter in Greece. It was no gimme!

 

[rafiki_]

I am doing the theory and if I manage to buy the boat we have had an offer excepted on then we will get the practical as own boat training and will include moving it. Difference is I don't have your experience.

I have a local guy that is giving me 1-2-1 training on the theory. He charges £300 for 30 hours but as I already now quite a few of the basics I have cut this down to around 20.

Most important point is that if you do your Day Skipper Assessment then you can get the ICC anyhow.

Yes, but this is limited to 10 m length.

 

[Solitaire]

I am doing the theory and if I manage to buy the boat we have had an offer excepted on then we will get the practical as own boat training and will include moving it. Difference is I don't have your experience.

I have a local guy that is giving me 1-2-1 training on the theory. He charges £300 for 30 hours but as I already now quite a few of the basics I have cut this down to around 20.

Most important point is that if you do your Day Skipper Assessment then you can get the ICC anyhow.

There is no such thing as a Day Skipper assesement. Day Skipper motor is a 4 day course with a minimum mileage of 100 nm. On the back of the full Day Skipper ticket you can apply for the ICC up to 24metres. There is an option to do an ICC assessment which involves questions on theory including CTS, Col regs etc. This is then followed by an on water practical assesment, but you should already be a reasonably competent boat handler. You can do the ICC for vessels up to 24 metres as a 3 day option. The first day is spent on the theory elements followed by 2 days practical.

The ICC is not in itself a qualification, more a statement of competence. In all honesty you would do better doing the Day Skipper practical and then applying for the ICC, but you will need the theory before you start.

The fact that somebody is prepared to give you 1:1 training at £10/hour is laughable! But I’d bite his arm off! Depending on the distance you are moving the boat will depend if it can form part of the course!

 

[Dutch01527]

I did the ICC last year. I used a online training app (Adlard Coles) that cost about £50. Highly recommended if you have a reasonable existing knowledge and need to brush up.

The practical course and examination cost £150 on the examiner’s boat and was very basic. Skippers briefing, mooring, turning, pick a bouy and man overboard and should be easy for anyone familiar with boats.

My ICC covers me for motor boats up to 10m.

 

[derekbland]

Yes, but this is limited to 10 m length.

So what you are saying is if I do the Day Skipper on a 13m flybridge that I can only get an ICC for up to 10m? Are you sure?

 

[derekbland]

Yes, but this is limited to 10 m length.

Have a look at this. Page 2 allows you to tick the relevant box re length. www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/cruising/Web Documents/Boating Abroad/ICC Form.pdf

 

[Newbroom]

So what you are saying is if I do the Day Skipper on a 13m flybridge that I can only get an ICC for up to 10m? Are you sure?

As far as I am aware if you take and pass the day skipper course on a 13m boat you will be eligible for an ICC to 24m. If you take a powerboat level 3 it will only make you eligible for a ICC limited to 10 mtres

 

[derekbland]

As far as I am aware if you take and pass the day skipper course on a 13m boat you will be eligible for an ICC to 24m. If you take a powerboat level 3 it will only make you eligible for a ICC limited to 10 mtres

Yes I have investigated it. An earlier post said it was only up to 10m but I think they assumed I was doing power boat.

 

[petem]

for the avoidance of doubt! ......

Day Skipper = ICC >10m
PB Level 2 = ICC <10m
ICC Assessment on boat <10m = ICC <10m
ICC Assessment on boat >10m = ICC >10m