Alternate Diesel stop lever?

[MM5AHO]

This winter intend to remodel the engine control panel on our Rival 32. The panel is in a recessed part of the cockpit, with two clear doors to protect from splash.
But the depth of this recess is determined by the T shaped handle and cable of the "pull to stop" type engine fuel cutoff system.
In remaking this box / panel, I'd like to reduce the depth to something like that required for the tacho, and starter button etc.

Anyone know of any other types of low profile stop systems?

 

[pagoda]

This winter intend to remodel the engine control panel on our Rival 32. The panel is in a recessed part of the cockpit, with two clear doors to protect from splash.
But the depth of this recess is determined by the T shaped handle and cable of the "pull to stop" type engine fuel cutoff system.
In remaking this box / panel, I'd like to reduce the depth to something like that required for the tacho, and starter button etc.

Anyone know of any other types of low profile stop systems?

Don't worry about looking for "boat" solutions. Search Ebay for "diesel stop" or "engine stop" cables. There are masses available in all kinds of shapes & lengths. My official replacement was about £40. I found an almost identical "tractor" stop cable for under £20.
I'm sure you'll find one easily enough.

 

[David2452]

This winter intend to remodel the engine control panel on our Rival 32. The panel is in a recessed part of the cockpit, with two clear doors to protect from splash.
But the depth of this recess is determined by the T shaped handle and cable of the "pull to stop" type engine fuel cutoff system.
In remaking this box / panel, I'd like to reduce the depth to something like that required for the tacho, and starter button etc.

Anyone know of any other types of low profile stop systems?

If you are looking for a push button solution to match the starter profile then solenoids are available on Fleabay and push buttons are cheap enough, the whole lot including cable should come to no more than £50 plus the time to fabricate a mounting solution for the solenoid.

 

[MM5AHO]

Two simple solutions, thanks. The solenoid way sounds ideal. I'll have to make sure the solenoid travel is sufficient for the fuel shutoff lever on the engine.

 

[David2452]

Two simple solutions, thanks. The solenoid way sounds ideal. I'll have to make sure the solenoid travel is sufficient for the fuel shutoff lever on the engine.

The stroke and whether push or pull is normally quoted, if the pull is a little too long then connect with a tension spring to allow the extra travel if you like so it doesn't strain the stop arm.

 

[Tranona]

The stop cable does not have to be mounted in the control panel. It can be anywhere - inside the cabin or in a locker. Any cable you use will still have the same travel, so just getting a tractor one will not help. Fitting a solenoid is a potential solution, but a cable is simple - just mount it in a less obtrusive place.

 

[pagoda]

And a solenoid has to be string enough to do the job. I have to say I'd prefer to stick to a solid wire cable with a mechanical pull mechanism. The less wiring on boats the better...
My old one eventually twisted off at the panel. After a week of diving down the steps and pulling the lever manually for an engine stop ,I started searching Ebay and found what I needed.
I guess if the electric solenoid version ever gave trouble - you could simply resort to doing it by hand at the engine...

Graeme

 

[lw395]

The stop cable does not have to be mounted in the control panel. It can be anywhere - inside the cabin or in a locker. Any cable you use will still have the same travel, so just getting a tractor one will not help. Fitting a solenoid is a potential solution, but a cable is simple - just mount it in a less obtrusive place.

Surely the stop control should be quickly accessible, ideally from the helm?

 

[Tranona]

Surely the stop control should be quickly accessible, ideally from the helm?

Not essential - just convenient. In a cockpit locker would meet that criterion anyway. Useful to have the engine start controls near the helm, although again many older boats have them inside under the companionway steps so in the dry.

 

[rotrax]

This winter intend to remodel the engine control panel on our Rival 32. The panel is in a recessed part of the cockpit, with two clear doors to protect from splash.
But the depth of this recess is determined by the T shaped handle and cable of the "pull to stop" type engine fuel cutoff system.
In remaking this box / panel, I'd like to reduce the depth to something like that required for the tacho, and starter button etc.

Anyone know of any other types of low profile stop systems?

Our boat has a similar set up, but the panel has two small openings, one for the ignition key and one for the stop cable. Just have a hole put in the plastic cover -water ingress has never been an issue with us-its the revcounter and gauges that are primarily protected from spray.

 

[alan17]

Could you fabricate a hinged cover. Then length of "pull" is no problem. You could also arrange for the cover to be lockable to avoid little fingers turning ignition off and possibly damaging alternator.

 

[prv]

avoid little fingers turning ignition off and possibly damaging alternator.

Are there any engines where turning the ignition off will damage the alternator? I can't really see how it would, unless you have a relay to isolate the batteries when the engine stops, which is not something I've ever come across. I know it was no problem to turn off the ignition on Kindred Spirit's 2GM20 - I usually did so just before pulling the stop, to avoid the annoying buzzer.

Pete

 

[alan17]

A diesel engine will continue to run with ignition off. I am led to believe that this can damage the diodes in the rectifier/regulator pack. I am not totally convinced of this but would not wish to put it to the test!

 

[prv]

A diesel engine will continue to run with ignition off. I am led to believe that this can damage the diodes in the rectifier/regulator pack. I am not totally convinced of this but would not wish to put it to the test!

I think somebody has got confused between turning off the ignition and turning off the battery switch(es).

As I said above, I "put it to the test" every time I stopped the engine in Kindred Spirit.

Pete

 

[alan17]

You are probably correct. But we are off the original thread. My fault. Sorry!

 

[nimbusgb]

When i did away with that stupid place for the engine conttols nd instruments I moved my stop cable to inside the helm seat, it has a flip up cover.