dgadee
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The Guardian's take on sailing. They usually just ignore it.
‘I live alone at sea. Here's how to be happy in isolation’
‘I live alone at sea. Here's how to be happy in isolation’
Alone at Sea - how to be happy in isolation
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Neeves
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I had read the article.
I think you are harsh on the Guardian. You are right they are not going to publish the sort of articles I write or is seen in PBO or YM. But if you wrote an article, say like this one, that would appeal to a non sailor - then they would, possibly, publish. I could not write as Susan has done, its not my style - I don't have her skills. I need to have something 'technical' around which to hang my script, I need walking sticks and crutches to support what I write. She has a style with which I cannot compete.
Just read the comments - people love what she says - but do you see many article like that In ST or YM?
Different market.
And thank you for bringing the article to a different audience - I did not think it would appeal to any here and I assumed those to who it would appeal would know of it.
Jonathan
There is another take on this:
Nice piece on isolation on a small boat
Interesting how 2 threads on the same subject can develop, or not, in different directions.
I think you are harsh on the Guardian. You are right they are not going to publish the sort of articles I write or is seen in PBO or YM. But if you wrote an article, say like this one, that would appeal to a non sailor - then they would, possibly, publish. I could not write as Susan has done, its not my style - I don't have her skills. I need to have something 'technical' around which to hang my script, I need walking sticks and crutches to support what I write. She has a style with which I cannot compete.
Just read the comments - people love what she says - but do you see many article like that In ST or YM?
Different market.
And thank you for bringing the article to a different audience - I did not think it would appeal to any here and I assumed those to who it would appeal would know of it.
Jonathan
There is another take on this:
Nice piece on isolation on a small boat
Interesting how 2 threads on the same subject can develop, or not, in different directions.
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CLB
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I enjoyed it. Thanks
dgadee
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In my younger days I wrote for The Guardian amongst other papers and it's my paper of first resort, so I am not so critical of it as you suggest.
But ... there have been interesting aspects of sailing they could have covered over the years (Golden Globe?) and there is a tendency to see sailing as for the Tory knobs.
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dgadee
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Oops this was meant to be a reply to Johnathan. Apologies!
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dgadee
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Also, my partner has written logs which are non-traditional and very funny (I am the villain). She wins the club log prize (judged by Irish sailing luminaries) but sailing magazines have no interest in publishing them. They prefer the ones where your eyes glaze after 2 minutes.
JumbleDuck
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I know just the ones you mean, ie almost all of them. The only logs I can remember reading with enthusiasm and interest was Richard Stilgoe's account of a delivery trip by sea, river and canal in his Romilly(?) which was quirky and entertaining from start to end. Otherwise, zzzzzzzzz.
ryanroberts
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They also have a thing for publishing pretty misleading articles about the viability of living aboard in London as a CC.
Neeves
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The Guardian is also my first choice.
Don't take my comments as being critical - just an observation
From memory, which may be wrong - I was very young then:
But The Observer, independent of The Guardian then, featured the the 'original' Golden Globe as a set piece every week (I actually recall they were the sponsor). . At the same time newspapers covered ventures such as Hunt's Everest, the first British ascent of the North Face of the Eiger, subsequently the Eiger Harlin route. and TV got in the act with the Old Man of Hoy. Times and readership demands - change.
I'd still suggest if there were journalists with the flair to keep JD's attention (and mine) - people would read the articles. But what would I know of readership likes a dislikes. I did read the canal boat featured articles which I found enjoyable - even if some found them inaccurate (I would not know).
Jonathan
Don't take my comments as being critical - just an observation
From memory, which may be wrong - I was very young then:
But The Observer, independent of The Guardian then, featured the the 'original' Golden Globe as a set piece every week (I actually recall they were the sponsor). . At the same time newspapers covered ventures such as Hunt's Everest, the first British ascent of the North Face of the Eiger, subsequently the Eiger Harlin route. and TV got in the act with the Old Man of Hoy. Times and readership demands - change.
I'd still suggest if there were journalists with the flair to keep JD's attention (and mine) - people would read the articles. But what would I know of readership likes a dislikes. I did read the canal boat featured articles which I found enjoyable - even if some found them inaccurate (I would not know).
Jonathan
dgadee
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Sunday Times Golden Globe it was.
dom
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The name rang a bell and a quick Google revealed that the Observer sponsored the "Single-Handed Trans-Atlantic Race" (STAR)
Single-Handed Trans-Atlantic Race - Wikipedia
sailaboutvic
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Last contact I had with Susan was about a week ago when she contract me asking me to email her some info at the time I think she was at anchor in Pilos Greece and staying stay put obeying the rules like most of are out here .
We seeing more and more single solo women cruisers these day and good for them, there just as capable of sailing single handed as us guys are.
If anything women seen to be able to cope better living on their only then us guys, most men solo sailor We know spend a lot of there time on the internet looking for a women to join them.
Now there a thread someone could start.
We seeing more and more single solo women cruisers these day and good for them, there just as capable of sailing single handed as us guys are.
If anything women seen to be able to cope better living on their only then us guys, most men solo sailor We know spend a lot of there time on the internet looking for a women to join them.
Now there a thread someone could start.
Stemar
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I enjoyed that, but it's rare that I enjoy reading about other peoples' sailing, or watching it. It just doesn't appeal, unless there are useful lessons to be learned. It's a participation sport for me.
Dare I say it - it's a bit like sex. Doing it's fun, watching it? No thanks. Quite like looking at other people's boats, though. ?
Dare I say it - it's a bit like sex. Doing it's fun, watching it? No thanks. Quite like looking at other people's boats, though. ?
dgadee
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Not sure what that says about me. I've been collecting sailing books since the 1980s. Shelves full of them.
Neeves
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I happily acknowledge a much better memory
My excuse is - it was a rather long time ago, so long I don't want to think about the implications.Jonathan
Stemar
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JumbleDuck
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Hence "OSTAR".
grandpaboat
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Actually the main sponsor was the Sunday Times for the Golden Globe. Observer for the OSTAR I believe.
