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Am (trying to) sell my Sealine S38. It was my first boat and although I really like it, it's not quite right for me and my very young family (want/need bigger side decks and prefarably an inside helm). Although I have looked at boats such as Sealine F37, I m being drawn towards getting either something like a Hardy 36 (cause I can't find a Hardy 42 in my price range) or a Trader 41+2.

Does anyone out there have any experience of either of these boats. I appreciate that it would be different to the Sealine (i.e. non planing etc), but are there any particular specifics I need to look out for. Preferred cruising speed in the region of 17 to 22 Knots, so engine size is important!! Any advice would be welcomed.
 
The S38 is a good boat.
As you have found out not that suited to your needs.
Heck of a first boat by the way!

Whilst looking for a replacement, I would consider the following.

Oh!, I have just thought of a vessel with all the bits I was going to list.
Check out Coronet 32.
Someone posted about them very recently.
coronet-- was the title of the post.
Don't ask me to put a link up!

Wide deep safe sidedecks.
Usable space outside and a flybridge with easy access.
Enough berths.
Easier to handle in a marina than the Sealine.
Looks like a slo bo but with twin 250's will get up and go alright.
Good in a chop too.

'Massive' for a 32 footer.

The two you mention would be children friendly too.
No personal experience of that particular Hardy.
The Trader is a 'big' 42 as well.
Bummed a ride on one years ago.
Quite impressed.

Others will be along in due course.
Good luck
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Most flybridges will have far more sensible arrangements regards getting to the front of the boat from the stern and will have more interior area per foot of hull,so even a smaller boat will probably still give you a more space for a given boat size.
All of the well known UK boat builders will have a fly version,which is virtually as fast,as its sports boat partner in the range somewhere,so you need not lose any speed in the swap over..
The two boats you mention would possibly be regarded by many as heavyweight long distance cruisers rather than whizzers with a roof on.
If its any consolation,virtually all us start our boating down the sportsboat blind alley,its just that some of us realise our error and wise up earlier than others,some never do. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Def a flybridge - you get most of the benefits of a sports boat when you want it, ie wind in the hair, with the security & comfort of a huge enclosed cabin & helm when the weather's not so good. IE most of the time in the UK.

We moved from an S28 to the Princess for just these reasons, increased the time we spent on the boat by a huge amount.

Thing is, family has grown up a bit, now we're looking to change back again!
 
S38 is a great boat especially for the Med and the guest cabin is a huge improvement to my S37, hope you get a good price. The main downside for me with a trawler style boat is the rolling and especially if the family are 'inside' you may have a lot of clearing up to do and of course they might loose interest after a couple of 'green' trips. F37's are great and F42/43 even better.
 
Not sure of your price range but I changed from a Targa 34 to a Beneteau Swift Trawler 42 for the same reasons and am very happy. It meets you speed criteria well and has exceptional ease of movement around the wide, safe side-decks, together with easy docking.
 
You should look and consider the Corvette 320 its the perfect boat for a young family, wide side decks and high rails got the fly bridge along with easy accommodation to move around in when at sea, and despite being a trawler yacht category it can plane and cruise comfortably at 20 knots, it dont roll as much as a Trader and a Hardy due to its hull design. Look up the Corvette query from about 2 or 3 days ago on this forum.
 
We're in the same position as you, (kids aged 2 and 4) and frankly if your family is as young I'd forget a flybridge for a few years. We've looked at a few with the little ones and they managed to scare us witless and we never even left the berth. Problems are the flybridge steps and the shallow screens on the flybridge. It was bad enough when we're watching them; potential nightmare when busy berthing etc. To be fair, I suppose if you always had spare family/crew to hang on to them this would not be so much of a problem.
Our Hardy has huge sidedecks and a helm under the HT but is becoming too small so I'm looking for something the same but bigger. The Seawings 355 and Windy Grand Mistral 37HT tick most of the boxes for us. Depending on your budget you could look at the newer HTs, Sealine SC38 or maybe the C39 (there was one up at £125k at EBY not long ago), or the Bene Monte Carlo range etc.
Happy hunting!
 
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You should look and consider the Corvette 320 its the perfect boat for a young family, wide side decks and high rails got the fly bridge along with easy accommodation to move around in when at sea, and despite being a trawler yacht category it can plane and cruise comfortably at 20 knots, it dont roll as much as a Trader and a Hardy due to its hull design. Look up the Corvette query from about 2 or 3 days ago on this forum.

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That's the one I meant!
Crikey , don't know why I wrote Coronet!

Flippen 'old timers desease' I reckon.

Good job you know what you are on about frankbee /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Think I'll go out and get Cornetto /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
I don't know what age of Trader 41+2 you're looking at but a friend of mine had one with Volvo 61A 306hp engines. It never achieved a top speed anywhere near what Trader claimed it did and it cruised at 16kts with a max of 19kts and used a lot of fuel too. It also rolled in a beam sea and threw loads of spray onto the decks and flybridge. Great party boat though
If you fancy a semi-d aft cabin boat around the same size take a look at Brooms, specifically 38CL and 42CL. Excellent sea boats, loads of space and well made
 
Thanks guys. All comments noted and given me yet more pause for thought!! Please don't misunderstand me, the Sealine S38 IS a great boat, especially with the three berths in the aft cabin which with a family of 5 was perfect (not having to continuously convert the saloon for example). It really, is the fact that with two small boys and an older daughter (3, 6 and 16 - yes I know its a large age difference and there is a perfectly valid reason so don't ask) although they are safe in the cockpit, I just have total kittens if the two boys and especially the older one, moves from aft to the side decks as they are quite narrow with perfect handholds for adults, but just out of reach for kids. The three year I don't quite worry about as much as he is not quite so independent and if he does move around, SWMBO and/or daughter are there to help. Anyway, if I don't/can't sell it the query becomes immaterial anyway!!

All the best and Happy Boating, whatever boat you're in and once again, thanks you contributions..
 
Deleted User - this is one of the ones we had been thinking about - haven't got as far as actually looking though. However, reasons for appeared to be: had the accomodation, inventory (i.e. they tend to come with genny etc) appeared to have the ability of getting up to around 22 knots according to advert and in the right price bracket (around £135K). Your comments sre: ride and rolling and being thirsty are certainly making me think again. Thanks.
 
Don't get me wrong. It rolls in a similar way to any other semi displacement boat of it's type but on the plus side it will plough thru head seas more comfortably than your S38 albeit throwing a lot of spray over the top of the boat whilst doing it. You will miss the performance and fuel efficiency of your S38 though. The T41+2 is a big lump of boat and I suspect you won't get better than 0.6-0.7mpg which is a lot worse than the S38. On the other hand the T41+2 does offer 3 good cabins and a particularly large aft deck which is great for entertaining especially with the grp roof over the top
 
Hi there
Hardy 36 owner here. You can search under my name and the boat and find threads that give my opinion in response to other similar questions. Failing that (and you well might with this search facility) PM me for a chat or get in touch with Malcolm Pannell the local Hardy rep via their web site - he is very well informed and very willing to help. BTW we are at Haslar if you get to the stage of wanting to crawl round one- very welcome. In a nutshell it meets all your needs especially the safety as long as you dont mind spending your time doing around 12 knots
 
I am afraid you won't get a Broom 38 or 42 for £135k, not even in this market.
You would get a Broom 37/9 (around early 1990's) which are better sea boats, preferably with either VP 306hp or perhaps down to Sabre (Ford not Perkins) 275hp, but are certainly no better than 1mpg at 18 knots.
Broom 38 might now be down to £160k for a keen seller, but Broom 42 CL still £200k +.
Look at James Dickens Marine website. He currently has 3 or 4 38's and a few 42's.
 
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