Advice on 30-35ft yacht for Circumnavigation

I have just built a shoe box in the forecabin of my Bav 37. Does that make it a candidate for a RTW trip?
 
We got a nice wooden box in the cockpit. Silly the ammount of pride I get from the occasional varnishing.

It goes by the name of 'Colin the Cockpit Box.'
 
capnsensible said:
Doug, I don't geddit as to why people shouldn't reccommend their own boat. Why is it bad form??

If, for example, you had a boat of the style and budget of the OP and had, perhaps, sailed that boat across the Atlantic 4 times, wouldnt it be useful to comment on its suitability?

I must be missing something :)
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I think Muddy Paws has summed it up, fulsome praise is great as long as it is balanced with some of the negatives. Once is descends to unflattering comparison it always looks like point scoring or an attempt to hitch a lift on the shirt tails of a popular choice.
Putting my cards on the table, as a contented Contessa owner of many years, I would not recommend one, for OPs budget and proposed trip.
 
doug748 said:
I think Muddy Paws has summed it up, fulsome praise is great as long as it is balanced with some of the negatives. Once is descends to unflattering comparison it always looks like point scoring or an attempt to hitch a lift on the shirt tails of a popular choice.
Putting my cards on the table, as a contented Contessa owner of many years, I would not recommend one, for OPs budget and proposed trip.
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Fair enough if one is in the business of being critical other marques.

But why a six month ban for talking about your own boat??

I've lived on mine for 13 years, completed 4 transatlantics and am very happy. Shouldn't that experience be helpful to others planning something similar?
 
Recommend my own boat? No, a Rustler 31 would be completely unsuitable. It has a deep safe cockpit, it's easy to sail and very closewinded, balanced helm, seakindly motion, surefooted performance, comfortable and practical chart table, proper seagoing galley, fabulous sea berths, separate heads compartment, fantastic amount of stowage, lovely cosy interior, cheap to run, easy to maintain, drop dead gorgeous to look at and ultimate seaworthiness. But.....not full standing headroom, no fridge, no hot water, no shoe stowage, erm, there must be something else bad I can think of, or yeah, it's a bit small inside. I have central heating and a full suite of electronics including radar, satphone and laptop, but if everything stops working (including the engine) I can still keep sailing and cruising, so no waiting for parts or expensive fixes in far-away places. As I said, a totally unsuitable boat. It'll go to windward in 40 knots, it'll handle a F10 with applomb, keep going in light airs and is a genuine go-anywhere boat (I speak from experience!). So, fantastically capable, but totally unsuitable. Don't even consider one. Apart from anything else the owners just won't stop going on about how wonderful they are and you don't want to become like that.....
 
jesterchallenger said:
Recommend my own boat? No, a Rustler 31 would be completely unsuitable. It has a deep safe cockpit, it's easy to sail and very closewinded, balanced helm, seakindly motion, surefooted performance, comfortable and practical chart table, proper seagoing galley, fabulous sea berths, separate heads compartment, fantastic amount of stowage, lovely cosy interior, cheap to run, easy to maintain, drop dead gorgeous to look at and ultimate seaworthiness. But.....not full standing headroom, no fridge, no hot water, no shoe stowage, erm, there must be something else bad I can think of, or yeah, it's a bit small inside. I have central heating and a full suite of electronics including radar, satphone and laptop, but if everything stops working (including the engine) I can still keep sailing and cruising, so no waiting for parts or expensive fixes in far-away places. As I said, a totally unsuitable boat. It'll go to windward in 40 knots, it'll handle a F10 with applomb, keep going in light airs and is a genuine go-anywhere boat (I speak from experience!). So, fantastically capable, but totally unsuitable. Don't even consider one. Apart from anything else the owners just won't stop going on about how wonderful they are and you don't want to become like that.....
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Well said that man!!
 
Twister_Ken said:
Tradewind 35?
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In an attempt to get this subject back on thread.....

35's possibly too pricey for the OP but a good 33' with bowsprit which make them easier to balance would be worth looking at. Sadly you have just missed a Tradewind 39 which went for £20K in my yard. Needed new decks,engine and rigging but what a bargain for a circumnavigator?
I'm the new and proud owner of a 33' and they are enormous inside for living aboard with 'over the top' seakeeping qualities, yet 'stately' in performance.
They are built like tanks and so good for the conditions you must expect somewhere.
They often come with cutter rig having removeable inner forestay which helps if you'r a circumnavigator for those extreme conditions.
some found on internet...
http://www.pinnacleyachtsales.com/tradewind/tradewind-33.html
http://www.sailingnetworks.com/classifieds/boat_advert/213505
http://www.apolloduck.es/advert.phtml?id=182355
http://www.sailing-boats-for-sale.com/sail_boat_93651.aspx

I wouldn't recommend my Twister Betty Dee which is for sale, too small internally for a circumnavigation, although very much capable of doing it.
There's a huge difference to sailing the Atlantic and doing a circumnavigation.
Make sure you don't underestimate the volume you would be grateful for inside.

www.twister.org.uk
 
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Ludd said:
Nab/Rasmus 35 (if you can find one for sale) . I' d happily go anywhere in mine---but going rtw is too much hassle at the moment.
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centre cockpit works well as additional living space as most have a cockpit cover for the rear half giving an extra room and indoor steering when its raining, makes the whole boat seem bigger. Rear cabin can be turned over to stores if there are only two of you

He's a couple doing it now in one

http://www.windtraveler.blogspot.com/

second Nic 35 - also fancied one of them too - they seem to have long distance cruising inventory fitted so prep costs will possibly be lower than most others.
 
EuanMcKenzie said:
centre cockpit works well as additional living space as most have a cockpit cover for the rear half giving an extra room and indoor steering when its raining, makes the whole boat seem bigger. Rear cabin can be turned over to stores if there are only two of you

He's a couple doing it now in one

http://www.windtraveler.blogspot.com/

second Nic 35 - also fancied one of them too - they seem to have long distance cruising inventory fitted so prep costs will possibly be lower than most others.
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Euan you've really gone an' done it now.... not only has she read your blog but also looked at Rasmus in your link..... and
read this other thread.... http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259235....

CARPET!!!!! :(:( GAWD HELP ME!
 
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Muddy Paws said:
Only that if we all took Snooks' approach it would be a relentless repetition of why our own particular boat is best. Be honest, a Sadler 32 may be a good sea boat, good for a couple on holiday and nice for a 12 week trip up Scotland, but the op is asking for a 3 year floating home in which to go round the world. He needs informed honest replies not a constant repetition of "buy one like mine".
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Nowhere have I said the Sadler 32 is the only choice, and it certainly isn't the best boat for doing a circumnavigation in, but the OP doesn't have the money for a HR, Najad, Rustler et al, so a compromise must be sought and one that is in budget.

I was simply correcting the incorrect information of a previous post.

The OP suggested a CO32 but was concerned about the accommodation, which is why the Sadler 32 evolved from the CO32, to address the Contessa's short comings.
 
doug748 said:
Putting my cards on the table, as a contented Contessa owner of many years, I would not recommend one, for OPs budget and proposed trip.
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I wouldn't recommend my Hunter 27 either, and out of all the boats I've sailed on, the Nic 45 would beat the HR36, but neither are within budget...

But neither of them are suitable for taking the kids to the funfair at Ryde ;-)

Whenever I open discussion with SWIMBO about AnotherBoat, "drying at Ryde" seems to be a requirement - at least for the next few years.
 
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snooks said:
Nowhere have I said the Sadler 32 is the only choice, and it certainly isn't the best boat for doing a circumnavigation in, but the OP doesn't have the money for a HR, Najad, Rustler et al, so a compromise must be sought and one that is in budget.
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A compromise would have been useful! But for a world cruise the Sadler is at the opposite extreme from a HR because it has limited accommodation and poor stowage for a three year trip. When that was pointed out you then made 2 further posts repeating that you owned a Sadler and would recommend it. Great seaboat though it is, I wouldn't recommend the Sadler because there are better boats for the job in that price bracket; your understandable passion for your own boat got in the way that's all.
 
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