Advice needed selling Nimbus 340 Commander

[henryf]

No idea on price I'm afraid, the usual issue is discovering just how much similar boats actually sold for. Otherwise you just look at others on the market which may well be over priced and people have them for sale for a couple of years before finally reducing to the price at which the thing actually sells which was the value all along !

If there was a way of discovering actual values I'd set up a boat business myself !

Not a bad website, the photos are woefully slow to download and you can't even enlarge them or make the smaller images larger even though you've paid the download penalty.

My usual bugbear - far too many personal possessions, I have no wish to know that you wear dentures but unfortunately now do. At one stage I thought you suffered from hemorrhoids but thankfully it was cream to relieve denture irritation. That coupled with the second toothpaste type product to compliment the Colgate Icy White.

Self service would normally put the fear of god into me and certainly a full engine survey would be wise. It's all well and good changing the obvious stuff but a marine mechanic earns their money looking at the areas outside the service schedule which experience tells them could be an issue.

Having said that all the areas do look extremely clean and well cared for so I could certainly see someone travelling to see her.

Good luck with the sale, you just need a bit of hard evidence to back up the price either way, needs to be priced right to sell but no need to reduce the price if others have actually sold for that figure.

Henry

Edited to say :

That is the tightest engine access I have seen in my life. I am assuming the rest of the deck lifts to reveal the full engine in all her easy to get at glory. If that is the case then ditch the restricted view and show us what you see when you service her. As it is I'm imagining no one has ever looked at the other side and I would be sh1pping myself in case something went wrong and we had to cut a hole in the hull to gain access

H.

 

[trialframe]

Henry, thanks for your helpful comments. Actually the Steradent is used for cleaning the Melamine cups! Also the engine access is superb- both hatches can be lifted (and regularly are), plus the whole of the plywood box can be easily unclipped for total access all around the engine. Andrew

 

[capsco]

Henry, thanks for your helpful comments. Actually the Steradent is used for cleaning the Melamine cups! Also the engine access is superb- both hatches can be lifted (and regularly are), plus the whole of the plywood box can be easily unclipped for total access all around the engine. Andrew

Just as Henry says, see how easy it is to create the wrong impression.

 

[henryf]

Take a photo then. When V Paul serviced the engines on our P42 I was staggered to see the whole floor come out allowing easy access. Although a bit of a pain in the bum to do I popped the floor out again to photograph when selling.

Overall I do think your boat is probably very clean, go the extra mile to expose the difference between your boat and others on the market.

As for the dentures - hey, it's your story and you can stick to it if you want......


Henry

 

[Garold]

I think that perhaps your expectations of an early sale may just be a bit higher than what is normal in the current market.

I had already noticed and viewed your boat advert and arrived at it from from Apolloduck (I think). And, the info looked a lot more extensive and complete that that available on many brokers sites.

I'm looking around at motorboats at the moment and your pictures gave me the impression that the boat is loved and probably in fine fettle. As already mentioned, the download speed was very slow for the pics , and the background brown colour looked a bit old fashioned for me. I think shades of blue seems to sell boats better. But what do I know?

We looked at a couple of boats at Offshore Powerboats in Jan and several had been for sale for about a year or more. Some are sold now though. Brokers seem accepting of having boats on their books for a year or two.

Interestingly, several times over the last few weeks, brokers have told me that they hadn't had any contact with the 'owners' for up to a year and they'd have to check if they were still for sale. Having just used Jonic's excellent brokerage service to sell our boat this winter, where communication was very frequent and easy, I've been a bit surprised by the responses from some of the brokers.

I also considered trying to avoid using a broker to save money but a good independent broker would seem the way to go if you can locate one suitable. However, perhaps you should persist with your own efforts for longer because in such a thin market, buyers are a bit scarce so you may need to be patient.

Cheers

Garold

 

[Spi D]

The key word regarding brokers is 'good'. When searching the web you get ad links from all sources and portals, repeated hits on same boats etc. Some even make search engines that harvest others' ads and present them on their own portals.

In a different league and normally shining well above these, you find 'good' brokers. During the search that led to my current boat I had contact with all sorts - also seemingly good brokers that proved not to be :nonchalance:

The Nimbus in question looks very nice indeed but the site seemed so slow I was tempted to leave before it finished loading the pics. Pic quality is OK regarding sharpness but lacks in light balance. Complex motives and pictures stacked without individual borders made it look cramped. I lighter overall design and photo edit/crop would help.

Overall page navigation and general layout is ok - just.

PS! Once loaded and stored in cache the site runs faster, but that does not count for first visits

 

[trialframe]

I've used 123reg as the website providers, and didn't realise that large sized images would cause it to load slowly like it does. It looks like I may have to revisit it. We have now cleared the boat of our personal effects, so I will re - photograph it with my camera on a lower resolution setting. Thanks for all the helpful comments. Andrew

 

[Spi D]

Hint: Many photo editors offer 'Save for Web' options that will produce faster displays with impressively low loss.

Irfanview for one (need their also free plugin).

Click to enlarge (a little)

 

[KINGFISHER 9]

There is a world of difference between advertising on the internet and proper face to face brokerage.

Google stats etc are all a bit meaningless really, internet coverage is a given these days.

it's experienced people who actually sell boats.

What you need is real live footfall and face to face viewings.

A good broker will be introducing clients who don't even know they want that type of boat, and will have spent all last season building strong face to face relationships with buyers, not emailing out some fancy looking analytics.

There are always more boats than buyers but a broker with a hot list of them is your friend.

...but I don't sell power.

Quite! ... just so.

 

[James L]

I've used 123reg as the website providers, and didn't realise that large sized images would cause it to load slowly like it does. It looks like I may have to revisit it. We have now cleared the boat of our personal effects, so I will re - photograph it with my camera on a lower resolution setting. Thanks for all the helpful comments. Andrew

Alternatively you can use a photo editor to reduce the size of the image, so you should be able to put the small size image on the page and then a link so clicking on the image opens a page with it full size.
I use GIMP image editor - it's free but can take a while to get the hang of.

http://www.gimp.org/

 

[henryf]

I've used 123reg as the website providers, and didn't realise that large sized images would cause it to load slowly like it does. It looks like I may have to revisit it. We have now cleared the boat of our personal effects, so I will re - photograph it with my camera on a lower resolution setting. Thanks for all the helpful comments. Andrew

Hi there.

Don't photograph in a lower resolution, still photograph normally but once you've got the pictures use your graphics programme to re size the image. I'm on an iPad so can't easily measure the size of your website images but re size them to 1200 pixels across the longest length. That will probably be a bit bigger than you need but massively smaller than the raw image.

I look forward to seeing the new images and well done for taking feedback on board. Be really critical when taking the photos, look really carefully to see if anything is out of place or not looking at it's best. Take your time and remember a bit of effort now will pay huge rewards for a long time, hopefully selling the boat.

If you have any problems post up on here.

Henry

 

[trialframe]

I've spoken to a colleague who is more Internet savvy than me and he's mentioned 'search engine optimisation'. So I've decided to pay for some work to be done with this and probably some targeted Google adwords spend.

 

[z1ppy]

I've spoken to a colleague who is more Internet savvy than me and he's mentioned 'search engine optimisation'. So I've decided to pay for some work to be done with this and probably some targeted Google adwords spend.

good idea but please sort the pictures out, i have tried to look a few times but got so bored waiting for the pictures to load i went elsewhere!

good luck with the sale.

 

[Spi D]

Once upon a time we had this thread:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...e-quot-why-isn-t-my-boat-selling-threads-quot

A good read in your position although the site in question was closed when the boat sold.

 

[henryf]

I've modified my original post to include a new link to show what the website looked like.

I'm not so sure spending money on SEO is a wise idea. I'm also not sure Google ad words is massively critical. I found I was able to get my site on page 1 of Google for searches such as princess 42 flybridge for sale pretty easily due to the low volume of traffic.

I saw the website as running alongside traditional adverts on places like Apollo Duck where the layout didn't allow the best of presentation opportunities.

Henry

 

[gjgm]

Hi there.

Don't photograph in a lower resolution, still photograph normally but once you've got the pictures use your graphics programme to re size the image. I'm on an iPad so can't easily measure the size of your website images but re size them to 1200 pixels across the longest length. That will probably be a bit bigger than you need but massively smaller than the raw image.

I look forward to seeing the new images and well done for taking feedback on board. Be really critical when taking the photos, look really carefully to see if anything is out of place or not looking at it's best. Take your time and remember a bit of effort now will pay huge rewards for a long time, hopefully selling the boat.

If you have any problems post up on here.

Henry

All good info, though I think the Nimbus is going to be available in far smaller numbers and so less choice for a punter than a P42 where there are pages of boats to consider. No harm in a good advert, but if you are in the market for a Nimbus 340 C I am not convinced the advert is going to make that much difference unless it is a shocker. For the Nimbus, you probably have a budget and an idea of age, and you are down to perhaps one or two boats !