Advice for first yacht

30-35 ft for £10k ??? It's going to be very old, very smelly, requiring a bit of work and a lot of money and probably have an engine that I wouldn't want to go any distance with. Harsh but realistic.
 
30-35 ft for £10k ??? It's going to be very old, very smelly, requiring a bit of work and a lot of money and probably have an engine that I wouldn't want to go any distance with. Harsh but realistic.

not sure i agree with the above! I have a Westerly Renown , lots spent on it and whilst oldish at 1976 build ideal for what you need. Not smelly at all, has a brand new engine (28HP), loads of extras and an up to date survey saying as much. Lot of money; not that either !

pm me if you are interested, but she is in a yard (Chantier Allemand in Grau d'Agde, S France). you could do the canals heading north next year and sell in the UK to buy your racing boat. You would be pleasantly suprised I feel.
 
not sure i agree with the above! I have a Westerly Renown , lots spent on it and whilst oldish at 1976 build ideal for what you need. Not smelly at all, has a brand new engine (28HP), loads of extras and an up to date survey saying as much. Lot of money; not that either !

pm me if you are interested, but she is in a yard (Chantier Allemand in Grau d'Agde, S France). you could do the canals heading north next year and sell in the UK to buy your racing boat. You would be pleasantly suprised I feel.

Is she 10K with a brand new 28hp Beta?
 
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'Must haves'
Maximum cost 10k depends on equiptment but looking for a bit of a bargin (arn't we all!)
Draft max 1.45m as I would like to do the canal du midi
Not a total 'project' as I have no time to spare but I dont mind putting in a little elbow grease here and there to get it up to scratch

'Prefences'
Cruiser/Racer type pedigree
Located in the south
Some form of self steer/autopilot
Thanks for any help
K


Alas this one falls at the first hurdle. Who knows, you might get it for nearer 10k with an impertinent offer:

http://www.quayboats.co.uk/sail84_rival_34.htm

You wont win many races with it but nowt to stop you hacking it round in club events. A lot of fibreglass for your money.


I have mentioned it before, dying for someone to love it
 
My only advice is to get the biggest boat you can afford and can single/two-handle. A 40ft (12m) is an ideal size for the Med but your budget is of course limited.

Different people have different ideas. My advice would be to get the smallest boat which will do what you want. That way you'll get a boat in better condition for your budget, and most of the costs associated with running her will be lower. The annual maintenance will be quicker and easier too.
 
Humm, interesting problem but not unachievable I would think, although you'll have to make compromises, particularly between a good med cruising boat and a fun racer.

An old IOR boat might be your best bet in the budget to combine both the size you want and enjoyable racing but you'll be compromising on convenience and comfort for med cruising, and they're generally not easy/suitable for single-handing. (I have a UFO 34 which was £15k a couple of years ago. You might be able to get a 31 or something similar for your budget.)
If you do go that route then make sure the anchoring set up is decent as some of the IOR offshore racers didn't come with any anchoring provision as standard spec (not really part of what they were designed for).

If you could live with a smaller boat then the seamaster or a parker lift keel would both be good choices.

Best advice though is probably to keep your net wide. Don't shortlist too much and go and look at a lot of boats keeping an eye open for a good deal. The cost of buying a well sorted boat and one in need of a lot of work is basically the same but it's obvious which you want. Getting the best sorted boat for your budget is (or would be for me anyway) more important than sticking to a very fixed idea of exactly what you want to compromise on.

(Also list prices on the south coast are significantly higher so worth looking at boats further afield if they sound good.)
 
As mentioned before, an ex-IOR boat will not get through the French canals.

I have worked on the French canals on a 38 metre barge - drawing 1 metre - for a season - even that had to be powered through the silt at times -, and had an ex-IOR Carter 30; both distinctly seperate, as never the twain shall meet !
 
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