Adventures of HMS Netley 1798 and new build replica warship project

[john]

I was searching my own name, as you do form time to time, and found a namesake had commanded HMS Netley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Netley_(1798)

My jaw dropped when I read this - see the vessels she captured and the adventures she had in her short career. A footnote in history now, but you can't over estimate what the Royal Navy were capable of at the time.

In the December issue of Classic Boat there is news of a proposal to build a copy of HMS Lennox on the site in Chatham where she was originally built back in 1677. The plans exist still, and it will cost a cool £23-£27 million. I'd be happy to generously donate, so long as no engine is ever fitted. Let's see if we can sail a ship again...

John

PS I wonder if Netley was the inspiration for the experimental double ender the fictional Jack Aubrey commanded at one point?

 

[Babylon]

In the December issue of Classic Boat there is news of a proposal to build a copy of HMS Lennox on the site in Chatham where she was originally built back in 1677. The plans exist still, and it will cost a cool £23-£27 million. I'd be happy to generously donate, so long as no engine is ever fitted. Let's see if we can sail a ship again...

I'm sure we can sail a ship again, but it wouldn't be truly authentic unless we were allowed to knock the French about!

Any online reference to the proposal?

 

[Seajet]

John,

I suspect you are right about Jack Aubrey - though I'd think the Netleys' successes were due to a rather vigorous Captain and crew as much as design features !

I really hope the replica project works out, I'd be willing to contribute in a tiny way.

 

[Easticks28]

There is a French association who are building a 17c ship of the line at Gravelines, Dunkerque. Well worth a visit if you find yourself nearby.

http://www.tourville.asso.fr/

 

[Seajet]

There is a French association who are building a 17c ship of the line at Gravelines, Dunkerque. Well worth a visit if you find yourself nearby.

http://www.tourville.asso.fr/

Right,

we'd better get a fund going to refloat the Victory !

 

[vyv_cox]

There is a French association who are building a 17c ship of the line at Gravelines, Dunkerque. Well worth a visit if you find yourself nearby.

http://www.tourville.asso.fr/

And the Hermione at Rochefort. We have visited twice, a truly breathtaking project.
http://www.discover-poitou-charentes.com/what-to-see/visit-the-hermione-at-rochefort.htm

Launched last year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySEzDyV1RV0

 

[ben_m]

Website here... http://www.buildthelenox.org/

 

[Keen_Ed]

PS I wonder if Netley was the inspiration for the experimental double ender the fictional Jack Aubrey commanded at one point?

Inspiration for the Polychrest is normally said to be HMS Dart/Arrow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Arrow_(1796)

 

[Fantasie 19]

Inspiration for the Polychrest is normally said to be HMS Dart/Arrow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Arrow_(1796)

...yes, and sometimes HMS Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Polychrest) is also thrown into the mix... he was a remarkably well read fellow was Mr O'Brian...!

 

[Seajet]

However there's no reason why a boat / ship with lifting keels / daggerboards should miss stays tacking unless the keels were way out of place longitudinally; these things would normally ' give a grip on the water ' and help her tack, compared to the round bilge keel-less tubs of the time having to be driven around the tack by sails or more likely wear ( bear way and gybe ) to the other tack.

The Dutch may have had a point with leeboards.

 

[PhillM]

Read this book. I started it on my summer holiday and only finished it last week. I need to re-read it to get some of the facts straight in my head. It is crammed full of great info:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Empire-Deep-Rise-Fall-British-ebook/dp/B00CIVLYU4

Nearly cried at the end, its truly depressing how we lost all our power at the end of WW2.

 

[MASH]

However there's no reason why a boat / ship with lifting keels / daggerboards should miss stays tacking unless the keels were way out of place longitudinally; these things would normally ' give a grip on the water ' and help her tack, compared to the round bilge keel-less tubs of the time having to be driven around the tack by sails or more likely wear ( bear way and gybe ) to the other tack.

The Dutch may have had a point with leeboards.

Not too sure on that, as having had a couple of embarrassing incidents in a modern drop-keel yacht this summer (high aspect ratio daggerboard) I lost control completely and unexpectedly at low speeds and tight angles of turn - ie stalling the keel - that would never have happened with the long fin keeler I was used to.

There's more to this than meets the eye.