A real Challenge to the Sealine s29! Cranchi Zaffiro 29!

Don't like styling, much too busy, I suspect to hide its bulk. Whatever you say about the swim platform, I wouldn't buy any boat with one that size, at least not in the UK. In the Med where it'd get much more use then maybe. Anyhow, transom lockers are kind of useful for warps, fenders, wetsuits etc etc.

Our Seawings has an open plan aft cabin with a curtain for privacy. It can be converted into a U shaped lounge area and it works very well. The boat feels spacious and light. The kids sleep in the mid-cabin and there's not too much of a problem with them. Granted it'd not work so well with two couples.

The hassle at this size and the main reason we're going to move up in size is having to convert the dinette every night which is a pain, else you leave it made up and then when kids are sleeping there's no usable cabin space, which is also a pain!
 
Its a Fairline Carrera with a patio garden at the back,Ilike it except the patio

cheers Joe
 
Re: A nice looking 30 footer

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Now that's more like it..........
 
Re: A nice looking 30 footer

yeah but thats a bit bigger

I would more compare that with 32 Zaffiro, mind you it still looks better the Fairline in this case
the Sessa is nice looking also
but both boats in this case are bigger to the new 29 Zaffiro

Cranchi has nice looking boats with the 34 Zaffiro, and also was the old 36/37 Smeraldo, who are the company classics

may be in 10 years time we can say the same of these new models they are presenting, but so far I am not convinced, still quality and price plays such an important role in there selling
 
IMHO, anything could challenge the cheap bland MFI look on some of their newer designs. It's a shame that some boat builders use "modern" design as the excuse to reduce manufacturing costs, and have gone for such cheap looking minimalist interiors.
 
In which case it is also horrendously expensive. £110k for a 24 footer when the S25 is a little over £60k

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Its small, ugly and expensive.

Look out, here comes Poweryacht to tell me why Im wrong. Only Italian boats can be great, we should all just buy one 'cause they are the best yada yada yada yada zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
yadayada haha
its nice, cute and cheap....

I guess you dont read my other posts over here, but also my blog where I did give a few arrows to Cranchi....

so I think the bathing platform thing is more for overtaking the law in certain EU countries, where like that it can avoid registration all togather
now about the length coming from UK, think Cranchi are doing what other builders have been doing for ages
a Fairline 37 Targa measure 37ft6in including pulpit and a stuck on platfrom, a 34 Zaffiro measure 38 feet over all

in the end Italians build among the best boats yachts in the world, and surely this is not my fault
Cranchi is not one of the best, but sure its quality price value is among the best, and now I am speaking about unpercepted quality here not what you see outside but how a boat is build, if you need to know more I suggest you ask a few surveyors around and most if not all of them will nearly give you a good nudge for Cranchi...

I also have owner friends who have or had Cranchis and always speak highly of them, and most of them had British boats before them, and they still regards the Cranchi as one of the best boats owned

ok cost cutting is of high priority for this builder, and I think some recent shots as I said in a post before this are not its best, for e.g. I think new 36 Zaffiro does not look good as old 34 model, and same goes on for a few of the others

in the end and this is what a surveyor should tell you, I prefare a builder which stucks a bolted platform to a boat, then one who goes on for cheaper resins to reduce costs and still show a glamourish boat (which happens a lot more then one would think)
but I.E. this is my mind speaking and in the end buying a boat is all about emotion, so if you dont like this new 29 Zaffiro just skip it....
 
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cheers Joe
 
I would agree that usually Cranchi do offer excellent value for money, The Zaffirro 34 was always a load of boat for the money.

But come on, what is basically a 24ft boat for €117,000 plus tax??? Surely that is nuts pricing when you can pick up an S25 for €70,000 plus tax. Ok, so the Cranchi does have twin engines, but I question weather that is really neccessary in a boat of this length.

Normally I think Crnachi offer decent boats for sensible money. not this time though....
 
ok got your point all of which are valid
but know you the cost of twin engines plus installation

you are also comparing it with a 25 feet while for Cranchi this is a 29 feet....
I think it is a bit in the middle as I think the Sealine does have an overall length of 25 feet, ok the platfrom is not bolted in but it does the same job or not

I think it is more of a different mentality here, the 29 Zaffiro is made a lot for the Med market and there, the extended platform makes sense for tender stowage and more so does the twin engines
e.g. if you keep your boat in Venice and want to go to Croatia etc etc
you might say you can do the same with a single engine and this is true, but for many people they want feel as safe versus the single engines so it is a selling nugget

back in the 1991 I was going to buy a Cranchi Clipper Cruiser at 7.8 mts about 26 feet overall, I did not buy the boat for a lot of reason but most important was the single diesel unit at the time, I want a boat which would take to Sicily from Malta and wanted something to last, my choice with the Gobbi 27 Sport (30.5 feet overall) with by 2x200hp Volvo41Ds later proved excellent as I kept if for 14 years, as with it I did not just go to Sicily but also Italy, it proved a worthwhile sport cruiser ....
 
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