dk
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It was a campaign run by Sailing Today and its then Editor, John Goode.
A Document for Those who get charged tp Anchor
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It was a campaign run by Sailing Today and its then Editor, John Goode.
Saguday
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It was an excellent article, well written and well argued.
TamarMike
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Most of those quote are statutory harbours where an Act of Parliament established their rights to make various charges and in some cases to make bylaws etc.
Some areas outside harbour limits do try to charge for anchoring, one that springs to mind is around Tresco. I was told by their employee that when they received grants to maintain their quays and piers a condition was imposed that they could no longer make the landing charges they had previously collected so to make up the shortfall they decided to charge boats anchoring on their fundus (leased from the Duchy). No doubt someone in the Scillies or west Cornwall will know if this is correct and what their current attitude is. When I last anchored there quite a few years ago I was challenged in a rather half hearted way and their collector didn't push the point, but that was when I had the old lugger and I gathered he had been more forceful when dealing with yachts.
sailorman
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boatmike
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Actually the National Trust don't charge to anchor at Newtown. They ask you to please contribute to the NT and you are within your rights to refuse. The Bouys however are chargeable as it's their ground tackle.
Oops! should have read through first..... redundant post!
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Seagreen
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Aha! That's me been using moorings and marinas over the last few years.. Forgot about the harbour byelaws. However, I was wondering if the various local authorities/harbours actually try to charge whilst not anchored in the harbour?
I was thinking of places like Starehole Bay off Salcombe, and Cellar Bay off Newton Ferrers, for example. Such places where you are essentially not in the confines of a harbour and not "enjoying" harbour facilities.
I was thinking of places like Starehole Bay off Salcombe, and Cellar Bay off Newton Ferrers, for example. Such places where you are essentially not in the confines of a harbour and not "enjoying" harbour facilities.
Grumpybear
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I think it was actually Sailing Today. The barrister concerned quoted a Law Lords decision in the 1880s (I think) confirming the right to anchor free of charge, which is being blithely ignored by both harbour authorities and, when they are challenged, lower courts today. The articles contained a standard letter to be given to harbour authority and other predators explaining why payment is being refused. I have a copy somewhere but have forgotten where.....
BelleSerene
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Sailorman, do you still have this skeleton doc please? It seems to have been deleted from the Yachting Monthly archive. I'd be really grateful for it - or for a pointer!
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Sailing steve
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Us too.
Several anchorages now have mooring buoys laid in such a manner it's too much of a risk to anchor around or between them and virtually the moment you pick one up somebody will be out in a RIB to take both your rubbish off your boat and twenty Euro out of your wallet for the privilege of doing so.
Just another nail in the coffin of Croatian chartering for us...
Petertheking1982
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Ive done a little research in my area (Solent). From my understanding (happy to be told if I'm wrong!), harbours do not charge for anchoring, they charge harbour dues for access (which cover costs for things like buoyage). This applies to places like chichester, langston and poole harbours. So in essence you don't pay for anchoring, but you still have to pay if using your anchor in the harbour (or you have to pay just to enter the harbour). The only exception to this is Beaulieu, which don't charge harbour dues for transiting, but do charge for anchoring.
Edit: I have often wondered on the legality of harbour dues.
Edit 2: looks like it's from the harbours act 1964
Edit: I have often wondered on the legality of harbour dues.
Edit 2: looks like it's from the harbours act 1964
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Mark-1
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I've always wondered how many vistors pay Chi Harbour dues and how they do it.
The conservancy say "THE CHARGE WILL BE DEEMED NOT TO HAVE BEEN PAID IN RESPECT OF ANY VESSEL ON THE WATER UNLESS THE PLAQUE HAS EITHER BEEN AFFIXED OR CAN BE PRESENTED IF REQUESTED." so you need a physical plaque like the ones they send me every year rather than something online. I can't imagine people detouring to Itchenor or buying their 24hr pass several days in advance so the postie can deliver. Or can they radio the harbour patrol boat for one?
I was stopped by the Patrol Boat two weeks ago Paddleboarding and he didn't check the plaque, just asked me if I had it on me and was satisfied with my answer.
Wansworth
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Been mooredon the conservancy trots at Itchenor sometimes they come out and charge other evenings they seem not to bother.When Ihad a boat in the harbour I bought a monthly harbour dues plaque ……the conservancy seems todo a good job and notó re staffed or coficious
ImpImp
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Blueboatman
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I have told this story before but..
There I was minding my own business in the Turks n Caicos anchored in 3 feet of water and up paddles a kayak and the first thing the chap ( ex assistant HM at Itchenor) ) says to me, tongue in cheek : “ Your sticker is out of date”.
AndrewB
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Two places I have been asked to pay but refused: (1) Tresco, when asked why, I was told for the amenities. That consisted of one public toilet, otherwise free. (2) Fowey, no visitors moorings available, could not get ashore - when asked why, I was told because I had 'used' the navigation buoy at the entrance to come in.
In the Virgin Islands, and some other places in the Caribbean, local entrepreneurs place mooring buoys vastly in excess of what is possibly needed, in order to block anchoring. If you still anchor and risk tangling (I did) it makes all the nearby ones unusable and you get shouted at and harassed. If you do pick up a mooring buoy - charge $50!
In the Virgin Islands, and some other places in the Caribbean, local entrepreneurs place mooring buoys vastly in excess of what is possibly needed, in order to block anchoring. If you still anchor and risk tangling (I did) it makes all the nearby ones unusable and you get shouted at and harassed. If you do pick up a mooring buoy - charge $50!
oilybilge
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It's a bit like that in Pyefleet these days
TiggerToo
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I have never been charged for anchoring in Cellar Bay
Hermit
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And to get into Cellar Bay then you wouldn't use the leading marks or buoys?
doug748
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Although Cellar Bay is not regularly patrolled by the Harbourmaster, they probably could charge for anchoring there if they choose to. Harbour limits often reach well beyond the inner workings for obvious operational reasons.
In St Mawes they do charge for anchoring though it is not pursued rigorously - they could do so a far as Carricnath Point, a huge expanse of water.
These are not idle threats, a new, rapacious Harbour administration is making the pips squeak in Falmouth, they now send a launch out beyond Trefusis Point - almost a mile away from any of their facilities.
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In St Mawes they do charge for anchoring though it is not pursued rigorously - they could do so a far as Carricnath Point, a huge expanse of water.
These are not idle threats, a new, rapacious Harbour administration is making the pips squeak in Falmouth, they now send a launch out beyond Trefusis Point - almost a mile away from any of their facilities.
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Blueboatman
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On passage, it was always a case of arrive late, anchor, up early on the new fair tide
And wave to the HM as you sail out.
Hey ho, some you win some they lose
