A difference of opinion between me & HWMBO; arbitration required

Urban myths and paranoia?

We record fuel purchases, amounts, price paid and from where bought in the log together with engine hours. I would not expect to have a problem with having legal UK bought red diesel in our 33 gallon tank. Quite apart from the fact that in that quantity the amount of tax were it due abroad would be peanuts.

IF on the other hand I was on a big Mobo say that had additional fuel in say a 45 gallon drum or multiple jerry cans on deck it might be different. It also might be different if somehow I was running around in said Mobo with tank(s) full of red diesel yet hundreds of miles from the UK, because that might suggest some illegal topping up from a tax free source in the host country. The context I would suggest has some influence as to the amount of interest any overseas officials might take, for sure the normal French Douaniers do not routinely come on board with fuel sampling kits!

As others have said, French boats will fill up in the UK and with red diesel because there is no other kind available quayside and what else can they do - phone the French CG for a tow home? Thousands of UK boats visit French, Belgian and Dutch ports every week in summer and ALL will have red diesel on board. A couple of incidents heavily reported may give cause for concern but I still think there were other factors not so widely reported, starting with a bit of True British ATTITUDE, johny foreigner has no rights kind of thing.

Of course the alternative would be we all stay at home, because ridding our tanks of red die is not that easy.
 
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As others have said, French boats will fill up in the UK and with red diesel because there is no other kind available quayside and what else can they do - phone the French CG for a tow home?


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Maybe its not a problem for them because they are French?

If you're a French customs man feeling crabby and wantoing to make someone suffer its much safer to enjoy yourself with a hapless foreigner, someone who wont be around to make trouble etc.
 
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If you're a French customs man feeling crabby and wantoing to make someone suffer its much safer to enjoy yourself with a hapless foreigner, someone who wont be around to make trouble etc.


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I seriously doubt that. For one thing Brits are probably more likely to make a fuss feeling (rightly) that they have been wronged and for another these people do not usually act alone so it would require the whole group to be crabby!

I have never met anyone who has spoken personally with the reported victims, either in cases concerning red diesel or in cases of boats damaged in a rough search as in the other post. All the 'evidence' as we get it is hearsay and I rather suspect the tale grows with the telling. In the other post I said I prefer to wait until the FACTS are released, not just an edited highlight of the owner or skipper's comments as reported by the popular press or even by a yottie journalist. I still hold that view and as one who sails many times and many miles regularly in French waters and has done for 25 years and even more and has been searched at sea and in harbour and often had papers inspected I have never found French customs anything other than courteous and polite, firm yes but then they have a job to do. The same is true of British customs.
 
You're right. Half of Holland is floating about with red diesel in their boats and an ancient tatty receipt saying they bought it in Belgium!
 
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